2018 K2 Pinnacle 88 2018 K2 Pinnacle 88

2018 K2 Pinnacle 88 Skis

The Pinnacle 88 from K2 is a versatile, easy-to-ski all mountain ski that benefits from the weight-saving Konic construction that K2 is now using in the majority of their skis. This Konic construction uses a lightweight Nanolite center material with denser fir wood along the edges of the ski along with metal laminates. By locating the stronger, heavier, denser materials along the edges of the ski K2 has effectively reduced weight, while retaining a solid feel. The Pinnacle 88 is unchanged moving into 2018, unlike the 95 and 105 that are now “beefier.” By retaining the light, easy-to-ski feel we expect the Pinnacle 88 to remain a favorite among less aggressive advanced and intermediate skiers who want to ski a little bit of everything.

The ability to ski a little bit of everything may be the crown jewel of the Pinnacle 88. Dave Marryat tested the 177 cm length and described it as a “super versatile shape.” He also thought the ski had a “very nice flex pattern with the stiffness and torsional rigidity to hold an edge in any terrain.” Even though he felt they held an edge very well, he still scored them 5 out of 5 for forgiveness, which suggests you can release that edge on demand and won’t feel locked into a turn. Dave also thought it “handled crud snow and bumps well.” An all mountain ski with a waist width of 88 mm really should be able to handle some off-piste skiing and variable snow conditions, so it’s nice to know Dave had a good experience on it not just on firm snow. He thought the Pinnacle 88 could be a “great one ski quiver for the strong east coast intermediate.”

James Stewart tested the 184 cm and thought the Pinnacle 88 was a very easy-going ski. His first comment on the ski was that it is an “automatic turning ski that probably anyone could have fun on.” We think that’s really important, accurate feedback on the Pinnacle 88. It really is a ski that just about anyone could have fun on. While we wouldn’t recommend it for true first timers, and on the other end of the spectrum aggressive experts will likely want more ski, but just about any skier in between can appreciate and enjoy skiing a Pinnacle 88. No, it’s not the burliest ski on the market, but it’s light, fun, and rewarding without being exhausting. James described it as having “lively ride quality with a versatile shape.” He thinks it’s a “solid contender for the 88-waisted, do-it-all category. It’s not as stable as some in this class, but makes up for it in ease-of-use.”

David Wolfgang felt it had “smooth, fun transitions in and out of turns at all speeds,” which is another excellent way of describing the Pinnacle 88. Smooth is a word we’ve used in our Chairlift Chat reviews surrounding other skis in K2’s Pinnacle collection and it is certainly an accurate way to describe the 88 mm version. David also thought it “floated nicely” for a ski of its width and also added that it was a great “crud buster,” which corresponds nicely to Dave Marryat’s reactions. David tested the Pinnacle 88 in the 177 cm length.

Overall we think the Pinnacle 88 is a great choice for anyone who wants an even mix of performance characteristics in a package that’s relatively relaxed. It doesn’t require tremendous skier input, it isn’t overly stiff, and it doesn’t pack as much power as some similar width skis with more metal, but it is fantastically maneuverable, easy to ski, and rewards you with nice turn shapes and the ability to ski just about anything on the mountain. Less aggressive skiers rejoice! Here’s a high performance all mountain ski that’s not built like it’s a World Cup Race Ski.

Testers

Dave Marryat Ski Tester Headshot Image

David Marryat

Age: 28Height: 5'11"Weight: 175 lbs.

Ski Style: Snowboarder trying to make the most of these skinny things

David Wolfgang Ski Tester Headshot Image

David Wolfgang

Age: 65Height: 6'3"Weight: 230 lbs.

Ski Style: Strong, deliberate, and smooth

James Stewart Ski Tester Headshot Image

James Stewart

Age: 28Height: 6'2"Weight: 170 lbs.

Ski Style: Energetic, Playful, Fun to Follow

66 Comments on the “2018 K2 Pinnacle 88 Skis”

  1. Hi

    I’ve narrowed down my search to 2018 bushwacker 174 vs k2 pinnacle 88 177

    I’m 5’10 185lbs. Advanced intermediate-advanced
    Ski mostly moguls and tight trees (black/double black) in Quebec/Vermont
    Ski hard and all day until my legs give out

    I have a 106 under foot for *powder* and a 71mm carver for Icey conditions
    Looking for something to slot in the middle

    Which of these would you recommend

    Thanks

    1. Hi Brad!
      The Bushwacker is a bit lighter and easier to turn versus the snappy Pinnacle 88. For a bit more performance, I’d look to the K2, but for ease of use and a totally natural ski feeling, it’s hard to beat the Bushwacker. Either one will make a great complement for the 106. Take care!
      SE

  2. Hi there! Any advice on mount position on the 88s? I bought them in 170cm (i’m 5’10) to have fun on the local midwestern hills. I recently read that they aren’t the most playful ski out there and was wondering if mounting them in front of the recommended line improve how they performed in this area?
    For an advanced skier looking to get into more jumps and drops (nothing too crazy), what would you recommend?

    Thanks!

    1. Hi Matt!
      Unless you know something specific about how you like your skis to be mounted, we’re pretty much always sticking to the recommended line. Have fun!
      SE

  3. Super helpful info here! I was hoping you could answer a question about recommended sizing. I am 6’2” 195lbs solid intermediate skier. I’de say I’m a 80/20 on-piste/off-piste skier who generally sticks to blues and easier blacks. I ski with pretty average aggression, but I like to do it all from a mellow green, dipping in and out of trees, and occasionally a back-bowl with some steeper terrain. I only ski 3-4 times a year, usually a couple of time out west and once or twice in VA or WV. Would you recommend I go with the 177 or 184 for the Pinnacle 88?
    Thanks!
    John

    1. Hi John!
      Your size points you to the 184, but your application and aggressiveness have 177 written all over them. I’d imagine you’d prefer the lighter and more maneuverable smaller ski. They’re still pretty darn stable, so I don’t think you’ll lack for performance. Hope that helps!
      SE

  4. Hi, I currently ski on K2 82 Amp Rictor 169cm and thinking of going to an all mountain such as the K2 Pinnacle 88. I do most of my skiing on the West Coast in Canada so soft snow is always around.
    I am an Intermediate skier who has done mainly groomed blues with the odd black and very short excursions off trail. I struggle a bit with the Rictors in anything more than 5cm of soft snow.
    Would the Pinnacles be a good step up? Probably in a similar length.
    I’m 65, 5′ 11″, and around 195lbs. Recent knee surgery on the “big three ligaments” also makes me a bit careful these days.

    1. Hi Jon!
      I’m a huge fan of the Pinnacle 88 for all-mountain skiing with a soft-snow emphasis. They have more tip rocker than some of the other skis in their category (Rossi Experience 88, Blizzard Bushwacker), so they are more adept at fresh snow. They still, however, maintain excellent edge grip and a nice and quick edge to edge feeling. Based on your stats, I’d recommend the 170 or the 177 depending on your level of aggressiveness. Hope that helps!
      SE

      1. Hi, I am in Japan at present skiing on the K2 Pinnacles 88 x 170. They cope well with both the powder and groomed slopes, so i would be happy to step up to them permanently.

  5. Hi SE,
    I’m 5’10 – 160 lbs – advanced intermediate/expert skier currently riding the 2017 pinnacle 105s – 177cm (which I love). I recently moved to Chicago and am looking for a ski that I can take into some of the glades and icy moguls you find out here (Mt Bohemia, Boyne, etc). I’m currently finding the 105s a little unwieldy to really have fun with the tight turns. That said, I’ve mainly skied big mountains previously and haven’t really embraced mogul/glade skiing until now – It’s possible that I just need to become a better skier. Do you think it’s worth persisting with the 105s to see if I can get the hang of it? Or am I going to have a lot more fun with a shorter/thinner ski like the K2 Pinnacle 88 – 170cm (or similar ski)? Any advice or recommendations is much appreciated.
    Thanks! Matt

    1. Hi Matt!
      I think the 105/88 combo would be a great two-ski quiver. I also have the 105 and I have a Soul Rider 87 for most days, and I love the combo. Have fun!
      SE

  6. Hi SE,

    Enjoy reading all the reviews and helpful advice. Please allow me to give it a go!

    38 years old, 178 lbs, 6’2″, intermediate/advanced, mostly on trail, enjoy carving quick turns. When I ski, I enjoy maximizing my daily number of runs (perhaps lighter weight skis would result in lower fatigue on a long day as you have mentioned?)

    Have always rented, looking to buy. Looking to improve my skiing. Ski a couple weeks in Utah and WV (Snowshoe) each year.

    From reading your reviews, the following are on my radar (but I’m an open book, so please send me in whatever direction you suggest):

    K2 Pinnacle 88
    Rossignol Experience 88
    Nordica Navigator 90
    Atomic Vantage 90

    What direction would you point me in? No problem if it’s something not on the above list. Also, size suggestion greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!

    Ryan

    1. Hi Ryan!
      Great list! At this point, you’re dealing with more similarities than differences between these models. The K2 is the most versatile on the list. It has a long and low tip rocker that excels in the softer snow, but the shape of the tail and the construction make them great on groomers as well. I loved the Navigator 90, as it had a natural and predictable character that I really liked. They railed turns on the groomers, and the tip shape allows the skis to float pretty good too. They’ve re-made the Experience for 2019, and it’s a great all-mountain ski. The Atomic Vantage 90 is similar to the Navigator, but I just didn’t get the same “snappy” feel that I liked about the Nordica. My personal favorites on the list are the Navigator and the Pinnacle. In terms of length, given your height and your desire for a lighter-weight product, you should be looking in the 180-185 range. Have fun, there’s no bad choices on your list.
      SE

  7. Hi SE!

    I am a 5′ 8″ and 160 lb intermediate skier in my mid-20s. I currently am coming from an 8 year hiatus from skiing and am interested in replacing my old Roc X’s. After skiing a few times last season, I definitely want to put a lot more time and effort into getting better. I will be skiing mainly on groomers in Lake Tahoe with the goal of getting better and working my way off piste and eventually going on ski trips with my friends to Colorado and Canada. Based on your reviews, I’ve been keeping in mind the K2 Pinnacle 88, Rossignol Experience 88, and Head Kore 93. I was wondering what your ski recommendation would be as well as your ski length recommendation? I’m not exactly sure if i should get the 163 or 170 cm.

    Thanks!
    -Ryan

    1. Welcome back, Ryan!
      You have a lot of good skis on your list for what you want to do. As for length, I’d go ahead and fire up the 170 (or closer to it than 163) for improvement and stability purposes. In terms of ski models, the Kore 93 is the widest and will give you the most flotation when you do venture off-piste. I’d give the edge to the Rossignol E88 in terms of on-trail performance, mostly due to its more cambered rocker profile. The K2 sits right in the middle of the three models you listed with a good on-trail personality, and a long tip rocker profile that is great for soft and fresh snow. If you’re looking for versatility, the K2 Pinnacle 88 is the way to go. Hope that helps!
      SE

  8. I’m an advanced intermediate east coast skier, 5’10” 180 lbs. I love my 17-year-old K2 Escape 5500s with 68mm waist. They’re great on groomed trails (where I spend most of my time), but when fresh snow is falling I struggle in anything more than a few inches of powder (a common occurrence on trips to VT). I’m guessing that wider skis would help – with newer technology I wouldn’t lose anything carving but would see some improvement in powder.

    How much of a jump should I be aiming for in waist width – up to 80, 85, 90, or higher? I don’t want to overshoot it to the point that it’s so different I feel like a beginner again, but I also don’t want to get something too small to really make the difference I’m looking for in deeper snow.

    1. Hey Joe!
      The combination of a wider width and a rockered profile will make a huge difference in your soft snow skiing. Since you’re referencing the K2 Pinnacle 88 page, I’ll start there. Even for today’s all-mountain skis, an 88 mm waist is on the narrow side. Sounds crazy, right? They make the Pinnacle in a 95, 105, and 118 as well for reference. If you skied the 88 in about 5 inches of fresh snow you’d notice a huge difference without losing carving or harder snow performance. If you bumped up to the 95, you’d gain extra soft snow float, but lose some carving/hard pack performance. It’s all about compromise. Since you already have the narrow ski, I’d recommend something in the 95 range, that way your skis aren’t too similar to each other–it makes it easier to decide which to ski on. In addition to the K2 Pinnacles, other models to check out would be the Nordica Navigator (85 or 90), Blizzard Bushwacker (88), or the Atomic Vantage series. At the end of the day, you’ll love the all-mountain performance of any of these skis–they just make skiing easier and more fun!
      SE

      1. Great! Thanks for the quick reply. A couple of follow-up questions:

        Within the same line of ski, does the ideal skill level change as the width increases? Sometimes I’ll see an 80 advertised as a beginner-intermediate ski, and a 90 in the same line advertised as an intermediate-advanced ski. Is that just marketing, or does the stiffness (or maybe something else other than just the width) change as you move wider?

        My current skis are 168 cm. For wider skis with more rocker, should I go longer, shorter, or stay about the same?

      2. Good question, Joe.
        The easy answer is that it all depends. Ski construction has a lot more to do with performance than width. At a certain point, you won’t find a wide beginner ski, but that’s about the only limitation I can think of right now. Oftentimes, manufacturers will stiffen skis as they get wider, but that is to accommodate for the fact that an increase in surface area will decrease torsional and longitudinal stiffness. For the most part, ski companies are pretty honest with their marketing and they try to get you in the right gear. As far as your sizing question, you should stay about the same length. There’s no ideal length for people, a lot depends on conditions and levels of aggressiveness. In the Pinnacle line, I’d say the 170 would be the appropriate length. Thanks again!
        SE

  9. Hi Neal,I’m 56 a good athlete and intermediate skier that skis in the northeast, although I take an annual trip to Colorado in march. I’m currently skiing some ol school atomics that are a bit short 164 metrons. I’m 5’10 190 and want a ski that I can carve up the blues but go off i off traiI a bit–I stay off the bumps. I’m wondering if the 88s @ 170 would be a good choice for me. I’m also looking at the atomic vantage x or cti skis

    1. Hi Dana!

      I think the Pinnacle 88 would be a fantastic ski for you! You shouldn’t have any trouble at all on the 170 cm length. That should be a good size for your ability level. More stable than what you’ve been skiing on, but still short enough that they’ll be easy to maneuver in the bumps, trees, etc. The Pinnacle 88 is a lot of fun as it performs well on groomers, but has a fun, playful, relatively forgiving feel in softer snow conditions and un-groomed terrain. Super fun all mountain ski overall.

      Hope that helps!

      SE

  10. Hey SE,

    I am an aggresssive skier that prefers double blues and some black groomers. I like to carve. However, I like soft snow as well and will hit the mashed potatoes, not slush, off to the side making short fun in controlled turns. I also would like to start sking some powder but not the deep stuff. I am currently sking on the K2 Apache X 167 (The Crossfires little bro) It’s only 68 at the waist. Will the Pinn 88 be enough for me at 20 wider at the waist? I have slowed somewhat now that I have joined The 50 Club and haven’t hit the slopes that much over the last 3-4 years. But I still like to let it go. Just got a job at Snowbird and plan on taking advantage of the free pass. I need new skis and the 88’s are getting great reviews. Is this the right ski for me. I am 5′-7″ and about 155-160lbs. What length would you recommend? I am thinking 170.

    Thanks

    1. Hi Laddy!

      The Pinnacle 88 would probably be great for you! In my opinion it’s a good ski for what you’re doing. It carves really well, but also handles softer snow conditions well too. Really fun ski for playing around on the sides of the trails and linking shorter turns. It’s also a little bit less demanding than some similar skis in this category, which in my opinion aligns nicely with your description of “somewhat slowing down.”

      170 cm is probably the way to go. I’m sure you’d be able to ski the 177 cm, but you probably don’t need that extra stability. The Pinnacle 88 should be a whole lot of fun at Snowbird! If you’re worried about float in soft snow you could bump up to the Pinnacle 95, but it doesn’t sound like you’re in exceptionally deep conditions very often, so 88 should work just fine!

      Hope that helps!

      SE

      1. Hi,

        I am on the east coast, 5’7″ 165 lbs advanced skier and it seems like the K2 pinnacle 88 170 cm would be perfect for me. Only question I have is about skiing in moguls. If I am going to spend a fair amount of time doing that should I consider the 163 cm length instead?

      2. Hi Bill!
        I think you’ll be better off on the 170. Yes the shorter length will turn quicker, but you’ll lose a bit of stability. Have fun!
        SE

  11. Hi SE

    I’m looking for an all mountain ski. I’m advanced skier 5.10′ and 170kgs and have skied on Dynastar Prorider 184 for the last 5 years. Half my skiing is touring with challenging pitches on inevitably variable powder in Europe. The other half is family skiing on piste – speed, quick turns and a bit of adrenaline. I’m looking at K2 Pinnacle 88 184 cm but worried they will be unresponsive in the powder and the Pinnacle 95 will be better all mountain ski – what would you recommend? I guess there is no perfect all mountain ski so it’s about choosing a good powder/touring ski which is also not bad on piste (or vice versa)

    Advice very welcome!
    Thanks
    Michael

    1. Hi Michael!

      Yeah, I think the Pinnacle 95 has some significant advantages over the 88 as an all mountain ski. I would go with the 95 if I were you. Definitely handles powder better than the 88, and doesn’t feel slow edge to edge or sluggish on firm snow. The 88 is a great ski too, but since it sounds like you spend a significant amount of time off-piste I would go with the 95.

      SE

      1. Thanks SE – that’s really helpful – would you recommend the Pinnacle 95 as a good all mountain ski ?

  12. I am considering either the K2 Pinnacle 88 or the Atomic Vantage 90 CTI. I am 72, have been skiing for 60 yrs., 6 ft., 175 lbs. fit and active. Advanced to expert skier. Now mostly ski groomed or powder runs, moguls less frequently these days. Have always liked the K2 line, Recon, Rictor’s, etc. Also loved the Atomic Crimson TI when they were around. I would appreciate your advise on these choices and how these skis compare/contrast. Probably in the 176- 177cm. length. Thank you

    1. Hi Ned!

      The Pinnacle 88 is a little more user-friendly. Both skis are quite versatile and would handle the terrain and snow conditions you’re in very nicely, but the Vantage 90 CTI is a little stiffer, has slightly more torsional stiffness, and arguably is slightly more demanding. The Pinnacle 88 is an exceptionally smooth ski, while the carbon in the Vantage makes it a little more responsive, which is why I call it more demanding. Always is looking for the next move, while the Pinnacle 88 is happy to just cruise. Not that it’s a boring ski by any means, it’s just very smooth in all conditions and terrain. Yup, I would go with either the 176 cm or 177 cm depending on which ski you choose, those lengths should work really nicely for you.

      SE

  13. Hello! I could use some help with a length recommendation, debating between 170cm and 177cm.

    I’m 5’9″, ~165lb, 27yo. Intermediate skier, comfortable on blues and starting on easy blacks. I’ll likely stick mainly to groomers, but still want to be able to venture off trail, through trees, etc from time to time.

    After chatting with the guy at the ski store, I’m leaning towards the 177cm. He mentioned reduced chatter at speed, but may sacrifice some mobility going through powder/trees. I’m hoping for a ski that I can grow into, making me think the longer length may be a better choice. What do you think? Thanks!

    1. Hi Garrett!

      I think as long as you’re willing to get a length that might take some time to grow into the 177 cm would work well for you. I think that’s a perfectly reasonable length for your size in the Pinnacle 88. What lengths have you skied in the past? That 177 cm might take some time to adjust to, but it seems as though you’re a relatively athletic person, so I don’t expect it to take you too long to get used to the longer length.

      Hope that helps!

      SE

      1. I’ve been skiing on 156cm rentals, as recommended by the guy at the rental shop. I think these were pretty short, but it makes the jump to 177 a little bigger.

        I don’t mind needing a little time to adjust, more concerned with it being liming long-term. Thanks again!

      2. No problem! As long as you’re aware that there might take some time to get used to it I think 177 cm is the way to go.

  14. Hi Paul,

    Have been on the 88’s for one season now. Tried the 95’s before I made the purchase but at least then felt the were a bit too much ski for my taste. Advanced intermediate skier at 178 cm and 63 kg. (living in Sweden now and can’t remember the the US numbers)
    Am mostly on front side or thru the trees by the slops, powder but not to deep. What’s your take, pros/cons in comparing the 88’s to 95. Advantages or disadvantages between the two in different conditions? Loving the 88’s but still curious if I made the right choice!

    1. Hey Neal,

      For 2018 the Pinnacle 95 used a little bit more metal than the 88. So, stiffer, more powerful, more vibration damping, etc, but also a little more challenging to ski. I think the Pinnacle 95 handles soft snow better, simply because it has more surface area. The 88 is super maneuverable and quite forgiving considering its performance. Both skis are forgiving skis, but the 88 really is. It’s nice that it doesn’t punish you if you make a mistake, but it still promotes good ski technique. I would say if you got on the 95 and felt like it was a bit much you almost definitely made the right decision going with the 88.

      SE

      1. Hi SE,

        Sorry for the mistake in the name in my first comment, was writing in the middle of the night. Great to hear about my choice. Wanted to say I love the reviews you all are doing and great explanations of the skis and different pros/cons of each!

        Neal

  15. I just finished a month on new K2 Pinnacle 88’s, after 10 years on older 68mm waist shaped skis. I love them on groomed, especially after a little new snowfall or when the piste starts to soften up, and they have given me the confidence I needed to start venturing into powder and deeper snow alongside and in between runs. Here’s a tip for these skis: At first I thought they were skidding a bit and not edging well on steep hardpack. But I found that a little more forward flex into the front of the downhill ski really locks it in and brings it right around. Bob – 6ft, 190lb, Pinnacle 88 177cm.

  16. Great deals on K2 Pinnacle 88 right now. I’m 5’8″, 160, advanced. I ski the black bump and tree runs at Winter Park/Mary Jane. I’m 51, but still aggressive. Skiing on 14 year old Salomon X-Max 09’s at 170. Will the K2’s be a good fit for me at 177. Should I look for a heavier ski?

    1. Hi Mike!

      I don’t expect you’ll need a heavier ski. The Pinnacle 88 is a lot of fun and will definitely be a huge upgrade over your Salomons, especially in un-groomed terrain. A heavier ski would be more stable when you’re charging through choppy snow, but that’s at the cost of maneuverability and ease of use. Sounds like it will be a great ski for you!

      SE

  17. Hi Paul,

    Thanks for the great review.

    I’m 5’8 155 lbs athletic intermediate skier looking to progress.

    What ski length would you recommend for me for the Pin 88?

    Any recommended boots and bindings to pair with these skis?

    Cheers,

    1. Hi David!

      At your size and ability I would say you’ll probably be best off on the 170 cm length. That length is just barely shorter than you, which is usually a nice length for an intermediate skier. It’s tough to recommend boots without seeing or at least talking about the shape of your foot, but I would look for something in the 100 flex range. Maybe 110, maybe 90, I think 120 would be too stiff and I think 80 would be too soft. Just about any all mountain binding with a fairly low stand height would work well. We mount a lot of Marker Griffons and Tyrolia Attack 13s on the Pinnacle 88.

      Hope that helps!

      SE

  18. Hi there. I’m 6′ and 210 lb. Finally got back into skiing after a number of years. Solid intermediate but hoping to improve with more time on the snow. Depending on my mood, I tend to push it on groomed trails. Haven’t down a lot off the groomers, but would expect to venture off more. I feel like I’m right between the 177s and 184s. Any recommendation on which length to go with?

    1. Hi Jeff!

      I think you can probably handle the 184 cm length. That length is just barely taller than you, but the Pinnacle 88 uses quite a bit of rocker and early taper, so the longer lengths are usually relatively easy to handle. It’s also just a forgiving ski by nature, so I think you’ll likely be just fine on the 184 cm. It will also give you a little bit better stability when you’re venturing off groomed trails, as well as more float in powder.

      Hope that helps!

      SE

  19. Thank you yet again SE – detailed feedback really appreciated!

    Hope you’re getting some turns in !

    Cheers Paul.

  20. Hi SE.

    Thank you so much for your quick reply and recommendations on 22 Feb re Pinnacle 88 and Nordica Navigator.

    I have now tried the Pinn 88s and found them
    easy to ski. Forgiving light and on a 10 inch powder day had no issues. Good on groomers – maybe a little soft / flex for real hardpack and ice. Few edge grip issues but could have been the condition of a rental set. Great Ski.

    Yet to try the navigators

    I have just read the great review on the new Rossi’s 88 TI Should they now be considered ? I have recently tried the 2018 88HD and did have issues with them per your notes. (Catching them – not easy to smear or skid turns ) Noticeably heavier than the Pinnacles as well.

    The TIs sound more forgiving and easier to smear and better in soft snow than the HDs. Assume better edge grip and hardpack performance than the pinn 88s.

    Would you recommend the new Rossi’s or stick with Pinns or seek out Navigator?

    Erring on the side of lighter / manouverable
    Ski

    Thank you – excellent service and feedback by SE to all is appreciated. Really informative and helpful!

    1. Hey Paul!

      The new Experience 88 Ti is really cool! Fairly similar to the Pinnacle 88, although I think it’s a little bit more powerful and not quite as forgiving. It’s not an exceptionally demanding ski by any means, but the Pinnacle 88, as you mention, is really easy to ski. The Experience 88 prefers a little bit more skier input. I actually think the Experience 88 kind of falls in between the Pinnacle and Navigator, so if you wanted to just boost edge grip and performance a little bit without going to the flat tail of the Navigator the Experience would be a great choice.

      It’s definitely much easier to smear and much better in soft snow than the previous version. In my opinion that was always the downside of the Experience collection. Great on firm snow, but catchy and somewhat challenging in softer snow.

      Hope that helps!

      SE

  21. 6’1 220lbs, do I go with the Pinnacle 88 177 or 184? I like speed on groomers and blue blacks but also head down a few easy bowls and wide open trees from time to time

    1. Hi Don!

      I would go with the 184 cm. The Pinnacle 88 is pretty forgiving and relatively approachable in longer lengths, so I don’t expect you’ll have any trouble skiing that length and I think you’ll appreciate the extra stability in un-groomed snow and when you’re skiing fast on groomers.

      SE

  22. Just finished two days of great skiing at Park City/Canyons, UT on my new Pinnacle 88’s. I purchased them new this season in 177 cm. I am 6-1, 170 lbs. Advanced intermediate. I love to cruise the groomers. These skis are very easy to ski. They turn effortlessly. I find myself being able to point it down hill and make short quick turns even on the steep slopes. They have been quite stable on the hard pack at high speeds. I think the light weight tips make they very maneuverable and forgiving. I am still looking for a powder day to try them in some deeper snow. But the way they feel I think they will be great. What a fun ski.

    1. Hi Mike!

      Thanks for sharing! it’s a great ski that for some reason is often overlooked.

      SE

  23. Hi SE!

    I’m 6’1″, 150 lb., mid-40s, very fit advanced/expert aggressive East Coast skier at Sugarloaf Maine on 2012 Atomic Nomad Blackeye TI 181 length skis. I would describe myself as an intermediate level skier and not as aggressive when I purchased my Atomics in 2012. My speed, aggressiveness, and skiing have greatly improved over the past 6 seasons of 35-40+ ski days annually all over the mountain incl. snowfields and back-country style glade terrain (when conditions permit). Spend a lot of time on groomers, ice, and crud as well in typical east conditions.

    Atomics have been an outstanding all-mountain ski for me, but I’m ready for a new ski that I can charge but also enjoy when conditions permit in soft snow, glades, moguls, etc. My Atomics are heavy (almost 15 lbs) and I’d like a lighter ski without sacrificing too much strength and stability for ripping east coast terrain.

    I’ve had my eye on the Blizzard Brahma 180 and K-2 Pinnacle 88 since last summer, but I’m also curious about the Nordica Enforcer 93, Volkl Kendro, and any others that might be a good fit for me. I’m tall and thin (runner build), and curious how that will impact your recommendation for me, incl. the style and length of ski.

    Headed out west next wk. to ski Snowbird/Alta/Solitude for the first time! Leaning toward leaving my Atomics at home, and renting/demoing a pair for the 5 days of skiing out there. Good opportunity to try out new skis, and with all the snow out there the past couple weeks, conditions should be good for testing!

    Let me know what you think.

    Thank you,
    Chris

    1. Hey Chris!

      I would guess that out of the 4 skis you listed you’ll probably like the Pinnacle 88. You mention you want a lighter weight ski and the Brahma, Enforcer 93, and Kendo are not necessarily lightweight skis in my opinion as they both use two sheets of metal. The Pinnacle 88, however, definitely falls into that category and can definitely be described as a ski that can charge, but also is pretty forgiving and maneuverable in variable terrain. I think it would be interesting to at least test one of the other skis you listed if you have the opportunity. Out of those three I would say the Enforcer 93 is the easiest to ski in off-piste terrain, so I would start there. It’s quite maneuverable too, so while it isn’t the lightest, you might find it has the performance you’re looking for. The Salomon XDR 88 Ti comes to mind too, it can charge, but it can also play.

      Let me know what you’re thinking after you’ve had some time on certain skis. Even if you can’t try all of those your reaction to a couple skis should allow us to really hone in on the right ski for you.

      Have fun in Utah!

      SE

      1. Thanks SE!

        Would you recommend the 177 or 185 length Enforcers for me coming from 181 Atomics?

      2. I’d say that’s a bit of a toss up, although just going back to your desire for a lighter ski and considering you’re around the intermediate level I do think 177 cm is probably more appropriate. Should be plenty of ski if you decide to go that route and will be a little more user-friendly than the 185 cm.

        SE

  24. Hi SE!

    I’m 5’10 – 155 lbs – upper immediate skier on older legs (mid 40s) still looking to progress. Mostly front side groomers but do get off piste and need something that can also handle crud and moguls.

    The Pinnacle 88s sound great. The Nordica Navigator 85 also. Assume a length around 170cm-172cm best ??

    What would you recommend ? Any others ?

    Cheers Paul

    1. Hi Paul!

      Great choices for you! Both could definitely work. With the Pinnacle 88 you’re going to have a little easier time in crud snow and moguls because the tail is easier to wash around (pivot, smear, etc). On the other hand the Navigator 85 feels a little more responsive on groomers. It’s not quite as maneuverable in un-groomed terrain, but overall they’re relatively similar, these are pretty marginal differences. That being said I would use those differences to make your decision. A little more groomer performance? Navi 85. A little more ease of use in moguls? Pinn 88. And I agree with your assessment on length. No need to go longer, I think those lengths will give you a fun skiing experience without being unstable.

      SE

  25. I am looking to choose between the Line Supernatural and the K2 Pinnacle 88. Can you recommend one over the other?

    1. Hi Brij!

      You know, when it comes down to it those skis are going to have a relatively similar feel. They both use a wood core, some metal, and some early taper and rocker. I really like the long, low rise rocker of the Pinnacle skis personally. I think it achieves that maneuverable feel in soft snow, but gives you nice consistent edge contact on groomers. It makes the ski feel really smooth and confidence inspiring, something that the Pinnacle series in general is becoming known for.

      SE

  26. Hi SE,
    Looking at either K2 iKonic 85ti or pinnacle 88.
    I am 6 1, 205 lbs and a moderately aggressive intermediate looking to progress.
    Which ski would you recommend and what length?
    Cheers
    Andrew

    1. Hi Andrew!

      I would say if you’re focusing on progression the Pinnacle 88 will likely be the better ski. It’s a more forgiving, versatile shape with its early tapered tips and tails. This will really help you progress faster, especially in off-piste terrain and variable conditions. It also helps make turn initiation a little easier. The iKonic 85 Ti is a fairly aggressive ski. It has more full width tips and tails than the Pinnacle series, which makes it a little harder to maneuver.

      Because it’s a relatively forgiving ski I think you could actually go with the longest length in the Pinnacle 88, the 184 cm, especially because you describe yourself as moderately aggressive.

      Hope that helps. What do you think?

      SE

  27. Great write ups on all these skis! How much rise is in the tips and tails of the Pinnacle 88? I’m 5’10”, 162 lb. Advanced-Intermediate. Would I be better with a 172 or 179?

    Also, with the little amount of metal in the ski, can it still be pushed relatively fast?

    Thanks!

    1. Hi Chris!

      There’s quite a bit of rise in the tip of the Pinnacle 88, but less in the tail. I would say at your size if you’re a relatively aggressive skier you should be able to handle the 179 cm. That ski would definitely give you the ability to push it pretty fast, the 172 cm might lack a little bit of stability for really high speed skiing just due to the shorter length. Even though it’s only partial metal it still provides that dampening and stability you’re looking for.

      Hope that helps!

      SE

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