2018 Salomon XDR 84 Ti Skis 2018 Salomon XDR 84 Ti Skis

2018 Salomon XDR 84 Ti Skis

The XDR 84 Ti is a brand new ski for Salomon going into 2018 and is part of their XDR collection of frontside carving oriented all mountain skis. Salomon has more dedicated carving skis in their X-Max collection that take a lot of influence from race skis, while the XDR collection borrows some design elements from freeride skis like more rockered tips, some subtle early taper in the tips and tails, and a construction that’s lighter than a traditional carving ski. Instead of a full sheet of metal, or multiple, the XDR uses what Salomon refers to as a Ti Power Platform, which is a sheet of metal that’s widest under foot, and tapers as it reaches the tips and tails. This provides torsional stiffness and edge grip under foot, but suppler, forgiving tips and tails. Their CFX Super Fiber increases torsional stiffness, energy, and supplements some of the power lost by not using a full sheet of metal, but at a drastically reduced weight.

Justin Perry tested the 179 cm length and thought it was a “great ski for the groomers,” but also found that with the rocker profile he was able to “cut through any crud I got into.” This is a great way to think about the performance of the XDR 84 Ti. It is responsive, energetic, and can hold an edge well on firm snow, as you’d expect a carving ski would, but it really is more capable in soft and variable snow conditions than most other comparable carving skis on the market. Justin commented that it “held on the super icy parts, but was playful through the cream cheese that wasn’t groomed.”

Steve Sulin skied the 172 cm length and found the XDR 84 Ti to be “easy-to-ski.” Steve arguably has tried more 2018 skis than anyone else in our test as he attends lots of industry demo events through the season. Considering he’s likely skied most competitors’ skis in this category, it’s significant that he calls the XDR 84 “easy-to-ski.” He also thinks it’s a forgiving ski, something that’s often hard to achieve for a carving oriented all mountain ski. Steve thinks it’s a great choice for an intermediate skier, and we would have to agree, although we certainly think more advanced skiers can enjoy them as well. After all, we sent out some expert level skiers on it who had positive reactions.

Benny Wax agreed that the XDR 84 Ti has an impressive combination of forgiveness and responsive carving. When Benny skied a 172 cm XDR 84 Ti the visibility was really bad, which prompted this response: “When skiing blind in fog and soft snow this ski can be your guide.” No, it’s not a self-driving ski and Elon Musk had nothing to do with its development, but the ski’s ability to quickly react to different snow types and changes in terrain makes it feel like it almost has a mind of his own. Benny referred to it as “snow sensitive” and described it as “forgiving, yet gives you plenty of control.”

The XDR 84 Ti has proven to be a relatively unique ski. It has a really cool combination of carving performance, forgiveness, and the ability to handle softer and more variable snow conditions. The supple tips and tails smooth out variable terrain, and makes the ski much more manageable for terrain like moguls or chopped up groomers after a heavy snowfall. While it’s certainly not the burliest ski in this category, it might be one of the most versatile 84 mm waist skis out there.


2018 Salomon XDR 84Ti Ski Review on Chairlift Chat

Testers

Michael Rooney Ski Tester Headshot Image

Michael Rooney

Age: 70Height: 6'"Weight: 155 lbs.

Ski Style: Fast and precise; racing background

Benny Wax Ski Tester Headshot Image

Benny Wax

Age: 67Height: 5'6"Weight: 190 lbs.

Ski Style: Smooth and creamy, lots of turns

Justin Perry Ski Tester Headshot Image

Justin Perry

Age: 27Height: 5'9"Weight: 170 lbs.

Ski Style: Aggressive All Mountain Freeride

Steve Sulin Ski Tester Profile Photo

Steve Sulin

Age: 42Height: 5'10"Weight: 235 lbs.

Ski Style: Smooth, precise GS turns

12 Comments on the “2018 Salomon XDR 84 Ti Skis”

  1. Hello,im not sure which lenght to buy 180cm or 172cm,im tall 178cm and 80kg intermediate skier,in ski service they are recommending me 172cm but i know this is not a regular skii because it has a early rise so im worried if 172cm would be to short,thx in advance

    1. Hi Vigorito!
      It’s not really enough early rise to make a difference in how it skis–you really need some serious rocker (or camber) to greatly affect the “length” of the ski. I’d go with the 172 based on your height, weight, and ability. Have fun!
      SE

  2. Hi guys. I really appreciate ALL your reviews. Now, it’s time for an updated pair of sticks. At 59 ( 5′ 11″ and 200 lb skier weight) entering the 2019-20 ski season, this will be my 3rd year back after a 2 decade hiatus. Last season I made real progress with 27 days on my season pass; even on 2 old pr of K2’s, a 2008 Apache Outlaw 174 cm, and 88 mm under foot, and a 2002 Mod X 188 cm and 70 mm UF, both will be retired, as I want a 1 ski quiver that will grow to 2 in a couple more seasons (mid 90-100 mm UF). I like both price and reviews of the XDR 84 Ti, as it’s half the price of Volkls’ RTM 84, and perhaps as good? The XDR 84Ti is at the top of my list.
    I’m aggressive on groomers and crud, ski solid non stop TTB for 2.5-3 hrs and call it a day. I’ll be looking to jump into the trees a bit this season, but hi speed groomers and hard pack are my preference. During this mtn bike season I’ve already dropped from 185 to 170-75, so my concern is length,179 or 186 cm? Will my (lack of) weight/hgt and age steer me towards the 179? Bob seems to push the 186 cm in the video, so is that to long for me?I really like speed and longer arc turns, so I’m leaning towards the 186 cm. Your input will help my decision, as I’m ready to pull the trigger this 4th of July weekend. Jeff, your closer to my size then Bob, what length would you prefer? Thanks in advance for your input.

    1. Thanks, Delly!
      This is Bob replying, I think Jeff would ski the 179, but if you’re closing in on 6′ and 200lbs with ski stuff on, you might be a 186 candidate, especially if you’re spending the majority of your time on trail being aggressive on groomers and crud. If you are really jumping into the trees a lot, you’ll have better maneuverability with the 179, but I found them to be quite natural and very responsive. I found the 186 to hold really well at speed, I really liked everything about the ski. It’s not quite the polished carver that the RTM 84 is, but it’s certainly more well-rounded. Your stated skiing style and terrain preferences would make me believe that you’d like the 186. Have fun!
      SE

  3. I’m a 52 year old very atletic skier… I’d say advance/expert… I’m 5’6″, 145lbs… currently sking with Fischer mtn pro 152’s since I’m skiing trying to help to teach my family… honestly I think they are nice skis med power out of carves etc… but I want more pop and want to upgrade… I like quick short to med carves… only on-piste since with the family for now… this is what I’m looking at…

    Salomon XDR 84_155 or 165
    Volkl RTM84_162
    Head Supershape i Titan 156 or 163 (again I like short to medium and some long carves so I’m favoring these)

    1. Hi JJ!
      Out of those three, the Head is your turniest, most carving type of ski. The wide shovel and flat tail really want to keep you in the turn. As such, you get tremendous edge grip and rebound, but they’re a bit more one-dimensional than the other two skis. The RTM sits in the middle–a great carver but can also be made to shorten up the turn and make some varied turn shapes. The XDR (my personal favorite) is an all-mountain ski first, and a carving ski second. I like the natural and easy feeling of the ski, but it can certainly stand up to some hard charging. If you prefer shorter turns, go for the shorter size–they’re all pretty stable, even at shorter lengths. Hope that helps!
      SE

  4. How would you compare this to Volkl RTM84? Really liked this (and the narrower brother) but Volkl reviews are also good – unfortunately really hard to get into test where I am

    1. Hi Pasi!
      I’d say the XDR is more versatile while the RTM is better on-piste. If you are skiing all-mountain terrain and conditions, you’ll most likely prefer the XDR, but if you are carving on-piste most of the time, the RTM is pretty sweet! Have fun!
      SE

      1. Thanks for quick reply; it also confirmed the opinion I had based on reviews!

        Thanks for The Team for all great reviews 🙂

  5. Hi,
    Just noticed this review and am really interest in the ski! Would say I’m an advanced intermediate. Been skiing a Blizzzard Titan 8.2 (185cm old freeride ski) with Eagle 12 bindings in and out bounds for a couple of years now. I want to move up in the world and want an all mountain for about 80-90% piste. Would the xdr 84 be a good choice, and considering my height (191). Would the 186 be the better length? My 185 ski now is alittle big on groomers, not a quick Turner especially on bumps, the rocker makes the ski smaller right?
    Thx
    Dave

  6. Hi fellas !!
    I enjoyed the review of the Xdr84 as It provided comfort in the fact this is my new ski for 2018 .
    My old swords were a pair of Crossmax pilot 9’s in a 170 length . I love the ski but wanted to treat my self to something current and Salomon has always been my go to ski .
    I’m on the heavier side , ( Years of married life ) @ 213 and stand 5’10 so I decided to go with the 179 length .
    I’m surprised to see the short turning radius of 15m in a ski this length .
    I’m hoping this was the correct choice as I do like to carry some moderate speed but more so really love carving deep trenches any snowboarder would admire .
    Ducking into the trees in the hopes of finding some holy powder is also part of the menu , although skiing in Ontario Canada doesn’t always provide the powder and verticle I’ve spoiled myself with in my younger years .
    I’ll keep you guys posted if you’d like on my first tracks , but in the mean time thanks again for your article and any feedback.

    Regards
    Hank

    1. Hi Hank!

      It sounds like you’ll love it! The XDR feels great at higher speeds, so I wouldn’t worry about that at all. Carves well, handles soft snow reasonably well too considering that carving performance. It’s really a great all mountain ski for Ontario terrain, which isn’t outrageously different than our terrain and conditions here in northern VT.

      Keep us posted!

      SE

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