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2019 Salomon XDR 84 Ti Skis

The Salomon XDR 84 is part of Salomon’s collection of all mountain skis, although it can also be considered a wider-than-traditional carving ski. The XDR 84 uses a poplar wood core with edge to edge carbon and flax fibers, which Salomon refers to as C/FX Super Fiber. This is the third rendition of this material and effectively doubles the amount of carbon and flax in the ski compared to the 2018 version. It also uses a Ti Power Platform titanal laminate that’s full width underfoot and tapers as it reaches the tips and tails of the ski. The XDR collection positions itself to compete against other all mountain carving skis, and within that category, they use a little bit more tip and tail rocker and early taper than we typically see, which suggests playful, versatile performance. Let’s see if our testers felt that way.

Charlie Roy tested the 186 cm XDR 84 and found it to be a very enjoyable all mountain ski. “This ski was great for every day, east coast skiing. It is not the strongest hard snow ski, but makes up for it with a fun surfy feel.” We’ve had similar reactions to the XDR 84 in the past. Its shape handles softer snow conditions really well, what Charlie is referring to here as being “surfy.” That feel also allows you to manipulate turn shape easily, as the ski allows you to smear a turn relatively well compared to other skis in this width range. “These would be great for a ski instructor, or just a person that likes to do it all, but doesn’t want a heavy ski.” Ski instructors will find it’s an easy ski to use to demonstrate different techniques, and Salomon effectively reduces weight by focusing on carbon and flax instead of using full width, full length sheets of metal.

Hans von Briesen thought it was an exceptionally versatile all mountain ski. Hans tested the 179 cm length and gave the ski 5 out of 5 for versatility and a 4.5 out of 5 for overall impression, with all our other criteria receiving relatively high scores. Only flotation was scored lower than 4. “A true all mountain ski for low tide conditions. It would be good in powder, but I would opt for the wider version (88). Variable turn shapes were easy and it performed in corduroy, slop, and bumps. I would take this ski all over the mountain.” The XDR 84 carves well, but its versatility truly sets it apart from some competitors’ skis.

Marcus Shakun opted for the 186 cm length, which is easily the best length for his size. Marcus found that the softer flexing tips and tails gave it a relatively relaxed feel, describing it as a “mellow all mountain carver.” Marcus, like our other testers, was impressed by its ability to make different turn shapes. “Medium turns that can go from being locked in to breaking into smearing turns.” Touching on the softer flexing tips he did mention that the tip can “get deflected at high speeds,” but that it has a “solid under foot feel when in the turn and is easy to roll into the next turn.”

David Wolfgang was another tester who benefitted from the ski’s versatility. David was on the 186 cm length and really had a great time on the XDR 84. Here’s David’s full, unedited reaction, “Some skis turn quicker than I do and the XDR 84 is one of them. That is a good thing because when you want to carve wide it does it with confidence. When you want to turn quick the ski is there for you. A constant smile.”

While the XDR 84 might not be the most powerful carving ski in this category, it’s arguably one of the most versatile and still performs at a high level when you’re linking carving turns. Those that like to make GS turns on groomers, then jump into the moguls, trees, and other variable terrain all on the same ski and on the same day will love the versatility and the blend of performance characteristics. It’s a true all mountain ski.

Testers

Marcus Shakun SkiEssentials Ski Test Headshot

Marcus Shakun

Age: 38Height: 6'5"Weight: 225 lbs.

Ski Style: Powerful, but playful with the terrain

Hans von Briesen SkiEssentials Ski Test Headshot

Hans von Briesen

Age: 32Height: 6'"Weight: 165 lbs.

Ski Style: Fast, playful, and loves to get air

Charlie Roy SkiEssentials Ski Test Headshot

Charlie Roy

Age: 27Height: 6'1"Weight: 235 lbs.

Ski Style: Technical, fast, with smooth looking turns

David Wolfgang SkiEssentials Ski Test Headshot

David Wolfgang

Age: 66Height: 6'3"Weight: 235 lbs.

Ski Style: Strong, deliberate, and smooth

20 Comments on the “2019 Salomon XDR 84 Ti Skis”

  1. Hi guys,

    I’m hoping you can help me out here.

    I grew up skiing every year back in the days but hadn’t skied for 7 years.
    Now that my kids have started to pick it up we go once a month.

    I’m an experienced skier, comfortable with black diamonds but don’t do anything crazy now as half the times I’m with my kids watching over them n’ all.

    I’m looking for an all round easy to maneuver that’s still fun and fast and read about the XDR 84’s, Nordica enforcer and Volkl Kendo 88.
    Do you have any recommendations between these as well as length?
    I’m 5’9, 170lbs.

    Thanks so much.
    Tom

    1. Hi Tom!
      In order of demand, the XDR is the friendliest while the Enforcer requires the most attention. The Kendo sits in the middle. Both the Enforcer and the Kendo have a higher gear than the XDR, but the XDR is able to operate better at slower speeds. Based on your stats and stated application, I think you’d like the XDR the best–quick and easy to turn but can still light it up when pushed. I’d say the 172 in that ski is just about right. Have fun!
      SE

  2. Hi guys, these reviews are extremely helpful, and the site in general has helped me gain a ton of knowledge on skis. I’m looking to buy for the first time after moving to Colorado, having skied for a few days yearly growing up, but taking a long break until the last couple years. I’m generally skiing blues and easier blacks, and am 28 years old, 6’3, and about 180lb. Would the XDR 84 ti be a good ski for me? I’m a little nervous they’ll be a bit too heavy with the metal, should I aim for something lighter? That said, other skis in this width that are lighter/more playful seem to be geared more towards beginners, which don’t seem right for me either (and I expect to progress now that I’ll be skiing more often).

    Any help is much appreciated!

    Alec

    1. Hi Alec!
      Your size puts you in the category of needing/wanting metal in a ski. In the 84, it’s not a full sheet, and I didn’t find it too stiff (I’m 6/2 220). A young guy like you should have no problem with the weight of the ski, as they’re pretty maneuverable and fun anyway. Hope that helps!
      SE

  3. Hi! I am buying my first pair of skis this season as we decided to buy season passes and park ourselves in Telluride for two months. Probably should have done it a long time ago. I am a 6’6″ 280lb intermediate skier. At 58 I am looking for something that is quick and responsive. I have rented demos in the past and have tried a lot of skies. I tend to like narrower under foot which makes sense since I tend to stay on groomed blue/double blue runs. These sound like great skis to me, but I am a little worried that they might be too flexible for my size. Thoughts? Also, thinking maybe of trying to get used to something a bit wider as I plan to get out on some powder this season since we will be living on the mountain.

    1. Hi John!
      I think you’d bend those 84’s pretty easily. You might have to go up in width and build, even given your intermediate level. Check out the Blizzard Brahma 88, Nordica Enforcer 88, and Volkl Kendo. All are 88 underfoot, so a bit of extra width, and all have two sheets of metal, which I think is appropriate given your size. You’ll appreciate the extra edge grip and stability with the higher-end skis for sure. Have fun!
      SE

      1. Thanks, after reading up some more I’m now torn between Volkl’s Kendo and M5 Mantra. The Kendo is probably more in keeping with my current skiing where I basically stay on groomers, but since we plan on spending two months on the mountain this year I am thinking I might want to branch out and try skiing in some powder as well. That would point more towards the M5. My other concern is that the Kendo’s top length is 184 while the M5 also has a 191 option. I have knee issues and where a braces when I ski (too much basketball as a kid). At 6’6″ 280 (hopefully less by January) I worry about having enough ski, but also worry about being able to handle a longer ski were I to get it. Is 184 enough? Is 191 too much? Thoughts?

      2. Tough (but fun) decision, John!
        I think the 184 is enough in both models. The 191 probably won’t be too much, especially given your size, but if you’re worried about your knees and the weight of the ski, I’d go with the shorter size. Between the Mantra and Kendo, the Mantra is 96 mm underfoot, which I would say will be just fine for both on and off-trail skiing. They really nailed it with these skis, and you’ll probably appreciate the extra bit of width (only 6-8 mm depending on year) as it’ll give you a bit more balance. I guess I’d recommend the Mantra 184–hard to go wrong!
        SE

      3. I appreciate the input! I decided to go with the Kendo 88’s (so much for following any of the advice you gave!)

        I may live to regret not getting the little bit wider ski, but I have tried a lot of skis over the past couple of years (demo days and just rentals) and found that I really didn’t enjoy skiing wider skis. Probably a lack of technique on my part, but I found I had to work too hard to catch an edge on them. Plus, I am really hoping that the new 3D cut on Kendo’s will be something that allows me additional turn control.

        I’m sure there will be a learning curve but I have two months on the mountain this year so I am looking forward to it! Thanks for your assistance.

  4. After a decade since I abandoned SL & GS sticks I went with backcountry touring and feel comfortable with 95 wide – 177 length but 1300grams range. Now looking to return to all mountain resort skiing and wonder if I can copy with xdr84 in 179 since it’s in 1600s range. But then I wish for the stability of 2 metals let’s say fischer mtn 86 or Ikonic 84… Really confused. BTW I m 175cm and 70kg advanced.

    1. Hi Johnny!
      If you’re not using them for touring, then weight is a lot less of an issue. If you’re looking for stability over maneuverability and flotation, the metal skis are certainly a better option. Have you checked out the K2 Pinnacle 95 or the Rossignol Experience 94? Both have metal (neither have two full sheets) but are stable as well as quick. They won’t win any lightness contests, but if you’re resort skiing, I think it’s worth the tradeoff. Have fun!
      SE

      1. Forgot to mention I do already own a pair in the 100s I rarely use. Again the allmountain category of 80-84s cares me the most and hard snow conditions specifically. Size wise you think those metal guys in 170s may work? Just found a last year’s Quattro 8.4…

      2. Hi Johnny!
        I’m a huge fan of the 8.4, but mostly for on-trail skiing. They’re pretty stiff for off-trail use, just to keep in mind. Sizing sounds good to me, though.
        SE

  5. Hi guys,

    I like your reviews of salomon XDR 84 and 80 skis. I’m 38 years old, 174cm, and 158 lbs. I am intermediate and comfortable with groomed blue and easy black runs with no moguls. I want to pick up either XDR 80 or 84 as my first skis. I think the suitable length for XDR 84 is 165cm. XDR 80 could be easier to control, but the suitable length is 169cm, which is 4cm longer than XDR 84 and it is longer than most of the skis that I tried before (almost as high as my eyebrows). Which skis would be a better fit for me, 169cm XDR 80 or 165 XDR 84?

    Thanks,
    Pete

    1. Hi Pete!
      I’m a huge fan of the XDR 84, so I’d go that route. You’re trading 4mm of width for 4 cm of length, so you’ll notice more benefits with the wider, shorter ski in terms of control and precision. Have fun!
      SE

  6. Your reviews are excellent, among the most useful on the internet. Last year’s review of the XDR 84 convinced me to get it, and I couldn’t be more pleased. Two questions— how did doubling the carbon/flax content for 2019 impact handling? Also, did it make the ski heavier, and, if so, how much? Thanks!

    1. Hi Kevin!
      To my knowledge, the XDR 84 is unchanged for 2019, but the QST line did receive a bump in the CFX layers that do impact the handling. The additional material gives the skis more power and damping through the turn, especially on groomed terrain. The weight difference is negligible because they removed other materials to offset the weight gain. Let me know if you have any questions!
      SE

  7. Hi guys,
    Really like your ski Reviews. Want to replace my Setup this year ( Blizzard Titan Sigma 8.2 (120-82-107) 185 cm + Fritschi Eagel 12). Been skiing this set-up Inbounds and Outbounds for several years now. Looking to get an all-mountain ski for 80-90% groomers, gonna put a marker baron on it for the occasional climb from the lift. Basically a one quiver ski. Skiing in the Eastern Alps with every type of snow: ice, hardpack, harsch, crud, powder. I would call myself an Advanced Intermediate. What I have missed with my Setup is getting through the bumps elegantly on-piste in the afternoon. The ski I have now isn’t at all quick to turn. Would the 84 XDR be a good ski for me, and is 186 a good length for my (191 cm) Frame?
    Thx,
    Dave

    1. Hi Dave!
      I loved the versatility and natural feeling of the XDR 84. I’m a bit shorter than you and I skied (and loved) the 186, so I’d recommend that length. Have fun!
      SE

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