2020 Atomic Vantage 90 Ti

The Atomic Vantage 90 Ti falls distinctly into the all mountain category with its 90 mm waist width. Its construction, however, is fairly unique in this category. Atomic’s Prolite construction is exceptionally thin, with raised “Energy Backbones” along the edges of the ski. It also uses a material called Titanium Tank Mesh to increase vibration damping and stability. At 1750 g (at the 176 cm length), it’s one of the lightest all-mountain skis in the ~90 mm range. As a lightweight ski, we found it to be exceptionally responsive in our 2019 Ski Test, and it had a very stiff tail. Atomic tweaked the flex pattern for 2020, and we were excited to see how it changed its overall performance.

Jeff Neagle skied the 176 cm Vantage 90 Ti and thought there were “definite improvements to this ski for 2020.” He went on to describe his experience on the 2019 Vantage 90 in more detail, “I thought the tail was a little too stiff on the previous version, which made it pretty unforgiving at times.” Jeff’s not the only one that commented on the tail flex out of our testers, and everyone seemed to really enjoy this new flex pattern. Despite the softer tail, Jeff didn’t think it lacked any edge grip or stability, as those criteria came in with scores of 5 and 4.5 out of 5 respectively. Jeff also added that its “highlights are its edge grip, energy, and responsiveness and the fact it has all achieved in a fairly lightweight package.”

Bob St.Pierre tested the 184 cm Vantage 90 Ti and was another one of those testers who commented on the ski’s new flex pattern. “For a metal ski, it has good pliability to it and the tail is fun, not abusive.” Some could have described the tail of the previous ski as somewhat abusive, and we’re quite confident Atomic skiers are going to really enjoy this new ski. Bob also thought it felt “very stable and damp” and that it could “make a variety of turn shapes and styles at many different speeds,” which is a key attribute for an all-mountain ski in this category.

Marcus Shakun also skied the 184 cm length in the Vantage 90 Ti and had “nothing bad to say about it.” In fact, he had a lot of good things to say about it, as well as high scores. Everything over 4 out of 5 from Marcus, which always gets our attention. “All-mountain-crud-crushing carver” was how Marcus described the ski. “It was smooth on edge, quick in and out of short turns, and built energy and speed in longer turns. Not too stiff, not too soft, just right. Could be a top contender in the ~90 mm range.” Marcus rides a lot of different skis throughout the year, so just knowing he thinks it has potential as a top contender really says a lot about it.

Steve Sulin had a similar response to Jeff Neagle after testing the 184 cm length. “Great upgrade from last year. Easier to ski, fun, and still as powerful.” We saw high scores from Steve, including 5 out of 5 for both stability and quickness/maneuverability, a true testament to what Atomic has achieved with this construction.

If you value a lightweight feel in your all-mountain skis, but don’t want to sacrifice too much stability or edge grip, the Vantage 90 Ti is just about as good as it gets. Less fatiguing than a heavier ski, but doesn’t lack any significant power. For a lighter-weight skier, this new 2020 version is a refreshing change. Heavier skiers weren’t as affected by the stiff tail on the 2019 ski, but for some, it was a bit much.

Testers

Mike Aidala

Age: 42Height: 5'9"Weight: 167 lbs.

Ski Style: As fast as the terrain allows

Dave Carter

Age: 61Height: 5'9"Weight: 155 lbs.

Ski Style: They don't call me "carving" Dave Carter for nothin'

Bob St.Pierre

Age: 41Height: 6'2"Weight: 215 lbs.

Ski Style: Adaptable, versatile, ex-competitive mogul skier and coach

Marcus Shakun

Age: 39Height: 6'5"Weight: 225 lbs.

Ski Style: Powerful, but playful with the terrain

Kelby J. Furrer

Age: 29Height: 6'0"Weight: 160 lbs.

Ski Style: Awesome blend of speed and style

Jeff Neagle

Age: 33Height: 5'10"Weight: 150 lbs.

Ski Style: Aggressive freeride with freestyle background

Steve Sulin

Age: 44Height: 6'"Weight: 230 lbs.

Ski Style: Smooth, precise GS turns

23 Comments on the “2020 Atomic Vantage 90 Ti”

  1. I own a pair of last year’s Salomon qst 106, 188cm. I’m an expert skier that skis primarily out West, most of my days will be at Mammoth but I intend to ski other Utah and Colorado mountains also. The 106’s are fantastic go anywhere big mountain powder hound blasters, totally happy with them. What I’m looking for this year is my front side hard snow carver with all mountain versatility for when it hasn’t snowed in 10 days and it’s kinda crusty and hard. I am looking at the Salomon Xdr 88 or Atomic 90 Ti. Which of these skis holds an edge better at speed and still has the best big mountain flexability?

    1. Hi Saul!
      I’d say the XDR 88 is the stronger performer of the two in both categories. Especially since you seem to like the feel of the QST 106, the XDR 88 is a great second ski. I felt that the Atomic was a bit too light for both edge hold at speed and soft-snow versatility. I’m actually just a huge fan of the XDR series skis, but if you typically like one Salomon, you’ll like another. Hope that helps!
      SE

  2. Thanks for the quick response, I forgot to say I’m a solid 228 lbs and 5’11”. Does my being a heavier aggressive skier change your opinion of which ski I want for the front side of the mountain on harder snow between the Atomic Vantage 90 Ti and Salomon XDR 88?

    1. Saul,
      I think the XDR would do a better job supporting your frame as it has a bit more heft to it. I’d wager the Atomic would feel a bit flimsy on your feet. Hope that helps!
      SE

  3. I have decided on these skiis. But size and bindings are next decision. I am 59 years old, athletic, 6’1″ but only 171lbs. I am thinking 176. As for Bindings? Was thinking of Tyrolia attack2 13 as I like the low profile. BUT, wondering if I can get easier edge roll if I get beefier bindings that raise boot a bit? I would very much appreciate you input. Thank you guys for what you do. Its a real service!!

    1. Hi David!
      You’ll definitely get more leverage out of a higher stand height, but most bindings in that Attack realm have 15-20 mm of height. The Griffon claims 22 mm of height, so that’s probably a good compromise. Both will get the job done from a safety and retention standpoint. Have fun!
      SE

      1. Last question…. and thanks for your recommendation. Will the difference between 18mm and 22mm make that much difference on leverage? — Thanks !!!

      2. David,
        Yes you’ll get better leverage out of the higher stand height. For carving and higher edge angles, that leverage does make a difference. It’s not huge, but it does count.
        SE

  4. Hi – I generally ski about 4 weeks/year, mostly at Whistler. I travel over from Australia and carry just one set of skis, so I need something good for all terrain. The skis I have enjoyed the most are my 2017 Vantage 90s, but they are now due to be replaced. I heard some negative things about the 2018/19 iteration, and so avoided that. Do you think the 2020 version would be good for me? I am rated as advanced. 168 cm, 69 kg. Now 70 years of age, but I still like to feel the wind in my teeth.

    1. Hi Michael!
      They softened the tail of the Vantage 90 Ti from 2019 to 2020, and we feel like that is in the best interest of you as the skier. For this year, it is still light and stiff, providing quickness and stability at the same time. I found it to be good at making a variety of turn shapes based on need, so the versatility is right there as well. Hope that helps!
      SE

  5. Hi- I am 63, 5′ 11′,’ 224lbs. upper intermediate, not too aggressive skier. I ski 70%/30% on piste/off piste. but want to do more off piste. I have been skiing on Dynastar Cham 87’s at 178cm over the last few years and liked them but am now ready to move onto something new. I have particularly liked the light weight of the Chams and for this reason I like the look of the Atomic Vantage range and around this width seems a good all round option. However I am not sure whether the 90 TI or the 88 C would be the best option for me. Most reviews indicate to 90TI is really for advanced skiers and The 88 C is better for lighter skiers. Which do you think would be best for a 224lb Intermediate skier? Are there any other skis you would recommend I look at?

    1. Hi Ian!
      I tend to believe that the 224 pound intermediate skier should be on the more advanced ski. The lighter one will always be too light, while you’ll advance and adjust and learn to appreciate the stability of the burlier build. The skis themselves are on the light side for how responsive and stable they are, so that’s a plus for you in terms of maneuverability. Also check out the Rossignol Experience 88 for a very well-rounded ski with a high upside. Hope that helps!
      SE

  6. Hi, I’m a 5”4, 125 lbs, age 54, male advanced intermediate to advanced skier, west coast piste, frontside, groomers, some pow occasionally, Mammoth, Snowbird, etc. Looking into either the Salomon QST 92 (161cm), Atomic Vantage 90 TI, (161cm) or something that would work well for my height, weight and skill level. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks!!

    1. Hi Dondo!
      I like how the Vantage is light and matches your weight. You might find the QST to be on the heavy side while the Atomic will suit your needs and stats quite well. Have fun!
      SE

  7. Hey,
    First of all thank you for the great reviews. They rly helped me to understand how different elements of a ski influence its performance in gerneral. 🙂
    Now to my question:
    I’m 6’2″ , 200lbs, 30 y/o and thinking about buying an all mountain ski. I’m an expert skier and would describe my style as poweful/aggressive. I ski 50/50, on and off piste( trees, deeper/powder snow). On groomers i like small to medium carving turns.
    I tested the atomic vantage 90 ti for a week. Its a great ski and i had much fun with it. I liked its quickness on groomers and its performane overall, but off piste in changing snow conditions it took a good read to predict how the ski would react. In this regard i thought about going for a ski with a bit more weight to it, i dont mind to trade in a bit more energy to bring the ski out of the snow off piste but still have the quickness on piste.
    My thoughts were the enforcer 88,93 ; mindbender 90ti; salomon qst 92. If you could give me an advice(also which length) or have other suggestions would be awesome.
    Thx in advance.

    1. Hi Jan!
      Your list is pretty good. It sounds like you might want to stick to 90 or above for your width, so you can take the Enforcer 88 off, I’d say. The QST is the easiest turner of the group with the Minbender not too far behind. The Enforcer 93 has the highest gear, and does require a decent amount of skier input to really get it to go. For a true 50/50 ski, I think the QST is the best option on your list. I’d look to the 185 in that model. Have fun!
      SE

  8. I am 69 years old 160lbs. 5′-9″ & currently skiing on the 2020 Bushwacker 173cm . Have skied on them 35 days at vail & steamboat. I like the light weight but find them not to have enough edge hold when skiing 40 plus MPH, chopped snow and/or steep groomers. I demoed the Brahma 173cm today and found them to handle speed and steep groomers much much better but were to heavy and demanding than what I am looking for. Thinking of the Atomic Advantage 90 Ti. & Enforcer 88 or 93. What lengths would you recommend and do you have any other ski recommendations. Looking for a ski performance between the Bushwacker & Brahma

    1. Hi Bil k!
      The eternal struggle! Why can’t they just make the Bushwacker with one sheet of metal instead of two! I think you’re in the right spot with the Vantage while the Enforcer will be more similar to the Brahma. Also check out the K2 Mindbender 90 Ti. Neither the K2 nor the Vantage has two sheets of metal like the Brahma, so you’re getting a bit more friendliness but still a high-performance ceiling. I’d look to that 173-ish size in any of those models. Have fun!
      SE

  9. Hey guys,

    Thanks for your feedback – I always find it so helpful.

    I’m looking hard at these Vantage 90 Ti’s as more of a daily ski for groomers and some off piste. I’m in California and only ski out west. Other skis are Head Kore 105’s (171cm) and Armada JJ’s (186 cm).

    I’m 5’7″ 165lbs, 43 but in good shape and a pretty aggressive skier. I do more off piste than on piste conditions permitting and mix turn styles – some high speed arcs on groomers and even pushing through softer crud, but also a lot of quicker turns in trees, bumps and on groomers too. So kind of all over the place.

    For these would you recommend the 176cm if I get them, or 169? Others I’ve looked at are Enforcer 93, QST 92 and Rustler 9. Should I strongly consider any of those over the Vantage?

    1. Hi Marz!
      You’ll see a similar stiffness to weight ratio in the Vantage as you do in the Kore, so if that’s something you like about the ski, then I suspect you’ll appreciate the Vantage. the Rustler is similar, with the Enforcer and QST on the heavier side. That said, weight does equal stability, but also at the expense of quickness. If you were to go Vantage, which I think would be a great addition to the quiver, I’d go with the 169, unless you feel like your Kore 171 is too short. Hope that helps!
      SE

      1. Thanks! I saw one poster/reviewer say he felt like they skied a little short, so that was the concern. You haven’t heard much of that?

      2. Hi Marz!
        I think it’s the lightness that gives that impression–same thing I found about the Kore series skis. Quicker than they let on, I’d say.
        SE

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