2020 Black Crows Camox

The Black Crows Camox is a new ski in Black Crows’ All-Terrain collection. It has a 97 mm waist width, a 20 m turn radius, uses tip and tail rocker with medium-height camber underfoot. Black Crows describes the flex profile as comfortable and friendly. At the ski’s core is poplar wood, a material that’s both relatively dense and reasonably lightweight. Black Crows mentions that its DNA is “derived from freestyle,” which is likely where its “tolerant and playful” attitude is coming from. Despite that freestyle-influence, Black Crows also claims it to be stable on edge thanks to the fact it doesn’t use much early taper, which provides long edge contact. As a new ski for Black Crows, and considering Black Crows is a new brand for SkiEssentials.com, we were extremely excited to test this ski.

Dave Carter tested the 174.2 cm length and he found it to be a versatile, fun ski. Relatively high scores from Dave, too, with stability, quickness/maneuverability, forgiveness, torsional stiffness/edge grip, and overall impression all earning a solid 4 out of 5. Dave thought it was a “good overall ski,” which we could’ve guessed based off those good scores. He described it as “stable at speeds and versatile enough for bumps.” That’s the idea behind the Camox. It’s intended to be able to ski at speed, drive some carving turns, but perhaps most-importantly, play and maneuver.

Kelsey Boleski tested the 174.2 cm length in the Camox, which happens to be the longest length available in the women’s Camox Birdie line, but Kelsey mentioned she would’ve liked to go longer in length, which would’ve bumped her up to the 180.4 cm men’s ski. Kelsey actually found high levels of stability out of the Camox, with stability and torsional stiffness/edge grip emerging as her highest scores, both earning 4.5 out of 5. No particularly low scores from Kelsey. Flotation and forgiveness, both at 3 out of 5, mark the low point for her scores. She described it as “wanting to stay glued to the tail and rail every turn.” The Camox seems to be the type of ski that will adapt to how you want to ski it and your own personality as a skier, which is supported by the feedback of our next tester.

Unlike Kelsey, Josh Wolfgang found a preference for playfulness and maneuverability in the Camox. All 4’s out of 5 from Josh for scores, with the exception of torsional stiffness/edge hold, which dropped all the way down to 2 out of 5. “This was overall a really fun ski that wants to play. Not great at carving on-piste, but that’s not what they are made for.” Josh certainly isn’t wrong. Carving performance is not the dedicated goal of the Camox. On the other hand, it excels as a versatile ski based on the feedback from all our testers. Josh, specifically, had the most fun “slashing on the side of the trail and hitting small jumps.” He did mention that he “didn’t get to try to ski on soft snow, but can tell it would be fun.”

The Camox is just a fun, versatile, mid-fat, kinda-wide all-mountain ski. This is the type of ski you can buy and know that you’ll have a ski that you can take anywhere, anytime, and in any snow conditions. It has the edge grip you need to have fun on groomers and firm snow, it has the maneuverability and fun-factor to satisfy playful skiers, and it’s a high-performance ski that’s accessible and approachable for intermediate level skiers. Considering it can be all those things, we can recommend it to a lot of different skiers. No matter how you like to ski, there’s a good chance you’ll have fun on the Camox.

Testers

Kelsey Boleski

Age: 29Height: 5'8"Weight: 150 lbs.

Ski Style: Freeride oriented with a competitive background

Josh Wolfgang

Age: 23/24Height: 6'1"Weight: 190 lbs.

Ski Style: Fast and carvy with a love for the fall line

Dave Carter

Age: 61Height: 5'9"Weight: 155 lbs.

Ski Style: They don't call me "carving" Dave Carter for nothin'

12 Comments on the “2020 Black Crows Camox”

  1. Hello. Are these easy to youse? Can you carv vith them?Turn easily? I’m a little bit worried about the 20m radius. I think that they need speed to ski well. Are they forgivening? How do they compare to the rustler 9 ski’s. Thanks

    1. Hi Flavius!
      They’re energetic and poppy. I found them to be easy turners that love input. The longer radius I find is nice because they can be skidded easier, and for an all-mountain ski like this, that comes in handy when the going gets tricky. A more solid feel than the Rustler, but similar overall performance level. Have fun!
      SE

  2. Hi. Great review. How would you compare these to the Fischer Ranger 99ti? The Camox
    sound like fun. Have you skied the Justis?? Maybe just a more directional version of the Camox? Cheers

    1. Hi Nick!
      We got on the Justis about a month ago and really liked it. Not quite the same feel as the Ranger, which is a bit more powerful than the Camox. The Camox makes very clean, round turns with a good amount of pop at the end. The Ranger is lighter in the tips and very stable underfoot and through the tail. This makes it a fun ski with a strong finish, but not quite as consistent in the build from tip to tail as the Camox. Camox is a better choice for woods and bumps while the Ranger has stronger piste/all-mountain/carving performance. Have fun!
      SE

  3. Hi Testers,

    Thanks for your review. Can you tell me what is the 186.5 actual tip tail measure? Most manufacturer’s stated lengths don’t square up with the actual length of the ski. For instance the current Elan Ripstick 106 188cm according to Blister Review is actually 183.8cm.

    1. Hi Rick!
      They’re running a bit short as well, especially on the Camox. It’ll take some time to get an exact measure, but you could assume about 3 cm less on a straight pull from tip to tail. Running length along the bottom will be pretty spot on to the 186.5. Take care!
      SE

  4. Hi, thanks for the amazingly detailed reviews. Long time reader, first post.

    Looking for advice, I’m 6’2” ~210lbs and mainly ski east coast with the annual trip out west. I’d say I’m an intermediate/advanced skier.

    Typically start the day on groomers high speed then switch it up to the trees for the remainder of the day.

    I’m torn between the Camox (2018) or Bentchetler 100’s. (2019)
    Tried out both at Snowbird this season and felt I wasn’t holding an edge as well with the Chetlers as I did with Camox.

    Just to throw a wrench in things I also demoed the Enforcer 100’s but think they may be a little on the heavy side for the trees.

    Any suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.

    1. Hi Zach!
      I’m not surprised about the edge hold, as I’m 6/2 220 and I felt the same way about the Atomic, although I only skied the 180 in both models–would like to try the longer lengths as well. Camox does have that beefier build and more poise at speed, although it does come at the cost of maneuverability and playfulness (but only a bit). Enforcer 100 is a different animal for sure–endless stability and power, but can be a handful when you’re trying to quicken up the turns. I’d lean to the Camox of the three, and I’d look to the longer length to get that stability–still won’t be too long in the trees, I’d think. Take care!
      SE

  5. G’day. How would the Camox compare to the Captis? Looking for a more playful ski to use alongside the 97 Bonafide. Cheers nick.

    1. Hi Nick!
      The Camox has a bit more beef than the Captis, so it’s a bit heavier, but also a stronger performer, so you gotta compromise somewhere. I feel that you’d find the Captis too light compared to the Bonafide. Have fun!
      SE

  6. Hi! I’m investing in new skis this year and I’m so torn between the Black Crows Camox and Black Crows Captis. I’m an intermediate skiier in the northeast who mostly skies groomers. I’d like something a little playful but my priority is control and maneuverability while carving. I do enjoy a trip out west each year to ski some powder and am concerned the captis would fall short here.

    I’m also 5”8 and 125 pounds. What length do you recommend for both of this skis based on my skiing style?

    Thanks!

    1. HI Sam!
      I think the Camox is the way to go for you. More playful than the Atris, and the 97 mm waist is better suited for mainly groomers and the occasional pow, versus the wider Atris which is a bit more at home in softer snow. I think the 168 is the way to go in the Camox. Have fun!
      SE

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