2020 Black Crows Camox

The Black Crows Camox is a new ski in Black Crows’ All-Terrain collection. It has a 97 mm waist width, a 20 m turn radius, uses tip and tail rocker with medium-height camber underfoot. Black Crows describes the flex profile as comfortable and friendly. At the ski’s core is poplar wood, a material that’s both relatively dense and reasonably lightweight. Black Crows mentions that its DNA is “derived from freestyle,” which is likely where its “tolerant and playful” attitude is coming from. Despite that freestyle-influence, Black Crows also claims it to be stable on edge thanks to the fact it doesn’t use much early taper, which provides long edge contact. As a new ski for Black Crows, and considering Black Crows is a new brand for SkiEssentials.com, we were extremely excited to test this ski.

Dave Carter tested the 174.2 cm length and he found it to be a versatile, fun ski. Relatively high scores from Dave, too, with stability, quickness/maneuverability, forgiveness, torsional stiffness/edge grip, and overall impression all earning a solid 4 out of 5. Dave thought it was a “good overall ski,” which we could’ve guessed based off those good scores. He described it as “stable at speeds and versatile enough for bumps.” That’s the idea behind the Camox. It’s intended to be able to ski at speed, drive some carving turns, but perhaps most-importantly, play and maneuver.

Kelsey Boleski tested the 174.2 cm length in the Camox, which happens to be the longest length available in the women’s Camox Birdie line, but Kelsey mentioned she would’ve liked to go longer in length, which would’ve bumped her up to the 180.4 cm men’s ski. Kelsey actually found high levels of stability out of the Camox, with stability and torsional stiffness/edge grip emerging as her highest scores, both earning 4.5 out of 5. No particularly low scores from Kelsey. Flotation and forgiveness, both at 3 out of 5, mark the low point for her scores. She described it as “wanting to stay glued to the tail and rail every turn.” The Camox seems to be the type of ski that will adapt to how you want to ski it and your own personality as a skier, which is supported by the feedback of our next tester.

Unlike Kelsey, Josh Wolfgang found a preference for playfulness and maneuverability in the Camox. All 4’s out of 5 from Josh for scores, with the exception of torsional stiffness/edge hold, which dropped all the way down to 2 out of 5. “This was overall a really fun ski that wants to play. Not great at carving on-piste, but that’s not what they are made for.” Josh certainly isn’t wrong. Carving performance is not the dedicated goal of the Camox. On the other hand, it excels as a versatile ski based on the feedback from all our testers. Josh, specifically, had the most fun “slashing on the side of the trail and hitting small jumps.” He did mention that he “didn’t get to try to ski on soft snow, but can tell it would be fun.”

The Camox is just a fun, versatile, mid-fat, kinda-wide all-mountain ski. This is the type of ski you can buy and know that you’ll have a ski that you can take anywhere, anytime, and in any snow conditions. It has the edge grip you need to have fun on groomers and firm snow, it has the maneuverability and fun-factor to satisfy playful skiers, and it’s a high-performance ski that’s accessible and approachable for intermediate level skiers. Considering it can be all those things, we can recommend it to a lot of different skiers. No matter how you like to ski, there’s a good chance you’ll have fun on the Camox.


Kelsey Boleski

Age: 29Height: 5'8"Weight: 150 lbs.

Ski Style: Freeride oriented with a competitive background

Josh Wolfgang

Age: 23/24Height: 6'1"Weight: 190 lbs.

Ski Style: Fast and carvy with a love for the fall line

Dave Carter

Age: 61Height: 5'9"Weight: 155 lbs.

Ski Style: They don't call me "carving" Dave Carter for nothin'

29 Comments on the “2020 Black Crows Camox”

  1. Hello. Are these easy to youse? Can you carv vith them?Turn easily? I’m a little bit worried about the 20m radius. I think that they need speed to ski well. Are they forgivening? How do they compare to the rustler 9 ski’s. Thanks

    1. Hi Flavius!
      They’re energetic and poppy. I found them to be easy turners that love input. The longer radius I find is nice because they can be skidded easier, and for an all-mountain ski like this, that comes in handy when the going gets tricky. A more solid feel than the Rustler, but similar overall performance level. Have fun!

  2. Hi. Great review. How would you compare these to the Fischer Ranger 99ti? The Camox
    sound like fun. Have you skied the Justis?? Maybe just a more directional version of the Camox? Cheers

    1. Hi Nick!
      We got on the Justis about a month ago and really liked it. Not quite the same feel as the Ranger, which is a bit more powerful than the Camox. The Camox makes very clean, round turns with a good amount of pop at the end. The Ranger is lighter in the tips and very stable underfoot and through the tail. This makes it a fun ski with a strong finish, but not quite as consistent in the build from tip to tail as the Camox. Camox is a better choice for woods and bumps while the Ranger has stronger piste/all-mountain/carving performance. Have fun!

  3. Hi Testers,

    Thanks for your review. Can you tell me what is the 186.5 actual tip tail measure? Most manufacturer’s stated lengths don’t square up with the actual length of the ski. For instance the current Elan Ripstick 106 188cm according to Blister Review is actually 183.8cm.

    1. Hi Rick!
      They’re running a bit short as well, especially on the Camox. It’ll take some time to get an exact measure, but you could assume about 3 cm less on a straight pull from tip to tail. Running length along the bottom will be pretty spot on to the 186.5. Take care!

  4. Hi, thanks for the amazingly detailed reviews. Long time reader, first post.

    Looking for advice, I’m 6’2” ~210lbs and mainly ski east coast with the annual trip out west. I’d say I’m an intermediate/advanced skier.

    Typically start the day on groomers high speed then switch it up to the trees for the remainder of the day.

    I’m torn between the Camox (2018) or Bentchetler 100’s. (2019)
    Tried out both at Snowbird this season and felt I wasn’t holding an edge as well with the Chetlers as I did with Camox.

    Just to throw a wrench in things I also demoed the Enforcer 100’s but think they may be a little on the heavy side for the trees.

    Any suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated.


    1. Hi Zach!
      I’m not surprised about the edge hold, as I’m 6/2 220 and I felt the same way about the Atomic, although I only skied the 180 in both models–would like to try the longer lengths as well. Camox does have that beefier build and more poise at speed, although it does come at the cost of maneuverability and playfulness (but only a bit). Enforcer 100 is a different animal for sure–endless stability and power, but can be a handful when you’re trying to quicken up the turns. I’d lean to the Camox of the three, and I’d look to the longer length to get that stability–still won’t be too long in the trees, I’d think. Take care!

  5. G’day. How would the Camox compare to the Captis? Looking for a more playful ski to use alongside the 97 Bonafide. Cheers nick.

    1. Hi Nick!
      The Camox has a bit more beef than the Captis, so it’s a bit heavier, but also a stronger performer, so you gotta compromise somewhere. I feel that you’d find the Captis too light compared to the Bonafide. Have fun!

  6. Hi! I’m investing in new skis this year and I’m so torn between the Black Crows Camox and Black Crows Captis. I’m an intermediate skiier in the northeast who mostly skies groomers. I’d like something a little playful but my priority is control and maneuverability while carving. I do enjoy a trip out west each year to ski some powder and am concerned the captis would fall short here.

    I’m also 5”8 and 125 pounds. What length do you recommend for both of this skis based on my skiing style?


    1. HI Sam!
      I think the Camox is the way to go for you. More playful than the Atris, and the 97 mm waist is better suited for mainly groomers and the occasional pow, versus the wider Atris which is a bit more at home in softer snow. I think the 168 is the way to go in the Camox. Have fun!

  7. Hi,

    I have an Artis already and looking for another ski for non power day and maybe park as well. Will Camox be a good fit? and how does it compare to ROSSIGNOL Sky 7 HD?

    Thank you!

    1. HI Fan!
      I love the snappiness and energy of the Camox. Even at 97 mm underfoot, it’s got some great on-trail and freestyle performance thanks to the positive camber underfoot. The Sky is a bit floppier, especially in the shovel, and while I’d recommend it for tree skiing and slower speeds, it’s not quite the performer that the Camox is. Have fun!

  8. Hi! I’ve been looking at these skis as well as Rustler 10s and Brahma 88 (getting a deal from a friend so I’m somewhat limited in my options).

    I’m an intermediate-advanced skier in the northeast – 5’10” 180 lbs. I’d say I ski 70% groomers (relatively aggressive) and 30% trees. The brahma 88 sounds good but Im a little worried they will be too demanding for me and maybe not versatile enough.

    Would you say the camox is a good balance between stability and playfulness? Is it a good middle ground between the other two skis I mentioned?

    Thank you!!!

    1. HI Ben!
      I think you’re right on in that evaluation. The Brahma is very demanding, and doesn’t really come to life up until a certain speed. The Rustler 10, for a northeast ski, is on the wide side, especially if you’re 70% on groomers. So, yes, the Camox slides right in the middle, with good energy and edge grip out of the turn, without being too demanding. One of my favorite Black Crows skis! Hope that helps!

  9. I’m a big fan of your site & ski recommendations, and as the owner of a mountain vacation rental agency I tell customers about your great site all the time!

    I’m an intermediate skier, 6’3″ 250 lbs, 62, in average shape, no hard charging – just like fun cruising on mostly groomers, but want to get better so I can go off piste and in some powder so my expert son will spend an hour or two with me and not be board to death!

    I’m down to Salomon QST 92 or Black Crow Camox. Thoughts? Also open to other suggestions.

    1. Thanks, Andrew!
      There’s a bit more energy to be found in the Camox, but it does require a bit more effort. We love the QST 92 for its ease of use but high-end ceiling. They are fairly similar overall, but a bit more camber underfoot makes the Camox snappier. I would say, though, that as a result of that camber, it doesn’t float quite as good as the QST, so if you’re looking for more float per underfoot millimeter, the QST is a better choice. I think you’ll value the pleasant personality of the QST a bit more, but it’s a great comparison. Have fun!

  10. p.s. in recent years I’ve mostly skied Tahoe, Mammoth some too. And now my son is in Breck so I’ll be in Colorado more again like I was decades ago.

  11. Hi! I am looking for a new pair of skis for the first time in over ten years. I am a hardened east coaster with a racing background, advanced/expert ability level. 5’10”, around 190lbs. I own a few pairs of 165cm slalom skis (Nordica Dobermans) and a longer pair of Blizzard GS skis. I have gotten used to using the Dobermans in pretty much every snow condition and setting (bumps, woods, etc). I love those skis and will continue to use them on cold NE ice days.

    That said, I am looking to buy something that has more all-around appeal for those mixed condition days — something that will stay stable at speed, but also provide me flexibility in the woods and in powder (my Nordicas do not make the deep stuff easy!).

    Basically, I’m looking for something that will handle all the things my race skis won’t, while also being able to hold an edge on the NE ice and provide some fun for an occasional trip out west. I am primarily looking at the Camox (and other BC skis like Justis or even the older Daemon), or a Nordica Enforcer. I’m thinking around 175-77cm. Also open to alternative suggestions.

    Any help would be appreciated — cheers!

    1. Hi Tyler!
      I think given your racing background, a ski like the Enforcer 100 makes a lot of sense. The Black Crows don’t quite have that dual-metal laminate feel like the Nordica, and I find it can be frustrating to think you’ve left performance on the table. The Daemon can hang, but neither the Camox nor the Justis have the stability of the Enforcer. You are giving up a bit of playfulness, but not much. Also check out Blizzard Bonafide 97 as a strong all-mountain choice. Have fun!

  12. Hello!
    I am an intermediate skier who is 5’9″ and 180lbs. I live/ski in Colorado and am looking for an upgrade from my current setup, which is Atomic Vantage Ti 90, 161cm. While I do ski mostly groomed trails, I do enjoy the occasional powder day. I ski at smaller ski areas that do not groom the trails as often as resorts, so I encounter lots of bumps and chunky, old powder on a typical day.

    I am looking for a mid-fat ski that is wider underfoot, but also has plenty of maneuverability and reacts quickly when I need it to. Control and maneuverability are priority, but I am also looking for more stability at speed and float through powder. I am interested in the Camox because it seems like an impressive, playful, do-all ski that will help take my skiing to the next level and maybe even give me a little more confidence.

    My biggest concern is that the Camox is not going to be easy enough to maneuver in tight situations or moguls. I am also struggling to decide whether I would be happier on the 168cm or 174cm.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

    1. HI Hannah!
      It’s a great ski for all-mountain versatility. I think you’ll get what you need out of the 168 for sure. Also check out the Elan Ripstick 96 in the 172. Have fun!

  13. Hi I am debating Camox with Rossignol SKY 7 HD or Escaper, I am 5’8” 145 lbs, 50/50 PNW skier, I like skiing bumps and trees and steep, but I don’t enjoy hard charging. I want something easily to maneuver on soft snow but also has good edge hold and damping. Can I have your advice?

    1. HI Jeremy!
      Escaper and Sky are on the lighter side while the Camox does have some beef to it. If you’re looking for edge hold and maneuverability, I’d go with the Escaper–it’s more damp than the Sky. Have fun!

  14. Hi,

    I ski East Coast Coast 20 days a year. I have stockl Lasar AX for firm fast days. Looking for a Playful ski that will make it easier to improve and ski bumps and trees on the days when it is not firm and fast.

    I am 6’1″ and this is what I have tried

    All conditions below as mid 30s temp and mix of soft and firm snow

    Rustler 9- ~180 playful in Bump but way too noodly on the groomer getting there
    Mindbender – 90 ~180- super stable felt like I was crusing in my grandfathers cadillac
    DPS Wailer 100- 184 super fun at moderat speed, held a reasonable edge going from soft to hard snow- predicatable in crud. Felt like It wanted to be driven. tips flappy on groomer unles I really got forward. unpredictable at slow speed
    Black Crow Captis 178- very fun and forgiving in bumps- could lose a bit of an edge going from soft to hard snow but held pretty well. It gave me confidence to ski bumps I normally dont. Only downside was the bumpy ride going through crud

    I am going to try the Camox hoping it might be a bit better in crud or softer snow.

    Recommendations bases on what I have skied and experienced. Is the Captis at 178 too short for what I am looking to learn how to do ( play in tight spaces).

    1. HI Rob!
      I do think the Camox will offer more stability versus the Captis and Wailer, and I’d put it on par with the Rustler. You pay for that stability a bit with weight, so if you’re focusing on lighter weight, the Captis is a good choice, as long as you can deal with the bumpy ride in the crud. We’re all pretty big fans of the Mindbender here in terms of versatility, and I’m a huge fan of that ski in the bumps. If you were to go Captis, I’d go with the longer size–184 I believe. Have fun!

      1. Thanks SE!

        Let me add some more info- I am 59 years old athletic but not an aggressive skier and a poor bump skier- At best I pick my way through them at worst I just try to survive. I am just looking to enjoy them more and want to keep learning. I am not sure if that affects your recommendation.

        I will take another look at the Mindbender- lots of opportunities for soft snow in the next week. Any other suggestions?

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