2020 Stockli Laser AR

Speed demons and all-mountain carvers will love the performance and stability of the 2020 Stockli Laser AR skis. As more of an all-mountain ski than the more front-side oriented AX, the AR has a wider waist, but still intends to remain close to the ground. At 83 mm underfoot, the Laser AR has a stable platform to stand on that helps keep balance and stay on top of softer snow. As a result, you’ll be able to conquer more diverse terrain while maintaining extremely high speeds. Full camber keeps your tips and tails on the snow, so be prepared for some super-quick and precise turn initiation and completion. The more race-oriented testers loved the smoothness and stability, while the more off-piste skiers remarked at how precise and exact the skis were at all speeds, but especially when opened up.

Katrine Wolfgang took a few runs on the 168 and felt that was the appropriate length for her. She scored it 5’s out of 5 for stability, torsional stiffness, and edge hold. The rest of her scores were all 4’s, so it’s safe to assume that Katrine was a huge fan of the on-trail prowess of the Laser AR. She especially remarked about the hold, saying that the Laser AR was a “smooth, fun ski that held real, real well.” We love it when the testers use repetition to get their point across. She also commented on the full camber aspect of the ski: “Easy to initiate turns, and on corn and soft snow conditions, the shovel plowed through. Would be nice in a little powder.” Certainly not a powder ski, but for an inch or three, the AR will blast right through.

Allison Ruschp also skied the 168 and loved the length. She scored top marks for stability, quickness, and edge hold. Her low scores for forgiveness and flotation are not surprising, as these are not the focal points for the Laser AR. “This ski wants to turn! Very stiff and aggressive, but had a lot of fun skiing. Similar to a slalom ski, it’s an exceptional front-side carver.”

Tad Lamell had the 175 out for a few runs and had nothing but good things to say about it. Scoring all 5’s except for flotation, Tad “loved this ski. Lots of fun, easy to ski, great performance, and a good all-mountain ski.” Sounds good to us!

Phil McGrory also skied the 175 and loved the length, but not the playfulness or forgiveness. He found it highly stable, maneuverable, and stiff, and had a highly favorable overall impression. “Fun, fast, quiet, and predictable. At 83 underfoot, the ski has enough versatility to ski the entire mountain. Grips well and likes to turn. Allows for a variety of turns from short radius to longer arcing turns.” It’s always nice to hear when a carving ski also has a higher gear for all-mountain skiing.

As a former racer, Nifer Hoehn loved the 168’s stability and torsional stiffness, leading her to score it a 5 out of 5 for overall impression. “So awesome. Loved the weight of these and the way they come around in a turn. Not as light and poppy as some of the carvers, but they carve nicely and aren’t too forgiving. Would love to own a pair!” We think you should get a pair, Nifer!

Carvers and front-side enthusiasts will love the stability and edge control of the Stockli Laser AR. It’s a much more poised ski than some of the other models in its class, mostly due to Stockli’s attention to detail in the building process. If you’re a skier who loves to rail turns and have tons of power in the ski, the Stockli Laser AR can handle all you can give it.

Testers

Nifer Hoehn

Age: 40Height: 5'6"Weight: 130 lbs.

Ski Style: Fast and precise carving

Phil McGrory

Age: 31Height: 6'0"Weight: 160 lbs.

Ski Style: Adventurous spirit in search of pow

Tad Lamell

Age: 73Height: 6'2"Weight: 220 lbs.

Ski Style: Experienced and precise with a love for early-morning runs

Allison Ruschp

Age: 32Height: 5'5"Weight: 135 lbs.

Ski Style: Ex-racer who's calmed herself down

Benny Wax

Age: 68Height: 5'6"Weight: 190 lbs.

Ski Style: Smooth and creamy, lots of turns

Katrine Wolfgang

Age: 49+Height: 5'5"Weight: 160 lbs.

Ski Style: Smooth carving

Ryan Daniel

Age: 36Height: 5'11.5"Weight: 180 lbs.

Ski Style: Fast and carvy

Marcus Shakun

Age: 39Height: 6'5"Weight: 225 lbs.

Ski Style: Powerful, but playful with the terrain

Steve Sulin

Age: 44Height: 6'"Weight: 230 lbs.

Ski Style: Smooth, precise GS turns

26 Comments on the “2020 Stockli Laser AR”

  1. I’m seriously considering the Laser AR however I can’t make up my mind about what size I should get. This will be my third season on skis after 15+ years of snowboarding, got around 30 (bell to bell) days on skis now. Last year I won a pair of Enforcer 100’s from a giveaway at my local shop so it’s sort of been my one-ski-quiver regardless of snow conditions but for this season I definitely want a narrower ski for those days where it hasn’t snowed for a while.

    I’m debating between the laser AR in a 168 or 175 size, I’m around 6′ (185cm) and 155-160 lbs. Conventional wisdom would put me more towards the 175, however the enforcers I’ve been skiing are 177cm and while I feel comfortable on them I wouldn’t say that they feel to short or that I would go for the 185’s if I had the option.

    Am I correct in thinking that I’d probably be more comfortable on the 168’s compared to the 175’s seeing as it seems strange to me to get a much more frontside orientated ski in a length that’s only 2 cm’s shorter than the enforcers.

    1. Hi Rik!
      I think the 175 is the way to go. If for nothing else, I just think you’ll feel like you’re going over the handlebars on the 168. Due to the stable nature of the ski, it won’t be as pronounced as some other skis, but given your height and your feelings about the 177 Enforcer, I think the 175 is the correct length for you in that ski. Have fun!
      SE

  2. I have decided to buy the Stöckli Laser AR but can´t decide if to go for 175 or 168. I am 177 cm (5′10′′) 175 lbs. Fairly god skier. Would be grateful for a suggestion 🙂

    1. Hi Anders!
      If you’re looking for more stability versus quickness, I’d go with the 175. At your height, I don’t think it’s too long at all. If you favor quickness and precision over higher speeds, the 168 will be fine as well. That’s the nice thing about being in between sizes, you get a choice!
      SE

    2. Im the same height and 72kg. I demod the 175 today and they were hammer. If you are a good skier then definitely don’t need smaller. I will demo the 182 tomorrow to see the difference.
      This is the most incredible ski. It ripped the piste, cursed through crud way better then any of my freeride skis and handled 15 cm powder really well.

  3. I’m interested in a pair of the Laser ARs (in part on the strength of the video). But I’m struggling to justify the high cost (almost $1500 w bindings). I’m also looking at the Nordica Spitfire RB 80 ($900), the Head I.Rally ($1000), Blizzard Firebird HRC ($1,000), or the Salomon S/Max Blast. I can’t find a place to demo them before buying. They all look basically the same to me on paper. Watching you ski on them, you seemed to rip on the Laser ARs–and that’s how I’d intend to ski on them on days when it’s not snowing. The Nordica Spitfires also looked good (but maybe hooked a bit or were grabby), and then in videos for the others no one was really pushing the ski and carving hard, so I couldn’t get a good sense of how they skied. Do you have a recommendation? I like the Stocklis, but not sure if they’re worth paying $600 over the Nordicas etc. Basically it’s going to be my frontside ski in the Utah Canyons at 9am after dropping my kids when it’s cold and I want to just carve up some frozen groomers for a couple hours. Thanks!

    1. Hi Adam!
      The finished product of the Stockli is pretty impressive. I just skied the RB 80 last week and loved it. It’s a playful carving ski, if that makes sense. It’s hard to get past the dollar value for sure, and any of these are going to do just great for your application. Have fun!
      SE

  4. I am 66 years old Weigh 215 and 6 foot tall and ski on Head Kore 105. Can’t decide between laser ax 182 or 182AR for frontside ski

    1. Hi Gary!
      I’d go with the AR just for a bit of versatility, unless you really want that race-like feel for your front side ski. I’d say the 83 mm waist of the AR is a better complement. Have fun!
      SE

  5. I will buy the laser AR or the new Volkl Deacon 84. All I do is hard core carving on the front side all day. That’s all that interests me. I’m 5’9 185lbs and currently ski on a set of 2015 Volkl rtm 84. 171 cm. So, how would you honestly compare the AR to the Deacon? Which one would you go for, for fun hard core playful carving? And of course, what length in each would be best.

    1. HI Ernest!
      If you’re looking for precision and a high-quality fit and finish, there’s nothing like the performance of the Stockli. There’s nothing wrong with the Deacon 84, not by a long shot, but the stability and overall edge grip and feel of the Laser is about as good as it gets. I’d look to the low 170’s in terms of length. Have fun!
      SE

  6. I’m debating between the Laser AX and AR. I’m 6,3′ and 205lbs. I like to ski aggressively and from time to time get into a GS course.
    Most of my skiing will be on the front side.
    What would you recommend and which length?
    Best,
    Pat

    1. HI Pat!
      The AX certainly has more of a GS pedigree while the AR has more all-mountain versatility. If you’re looking for that race feel and response, I’d go AX. IN terms of length, I’d go with the big one based on your stats and application. The 182 should be good! Have fun!
      SE

  7. Heavily considering grabbing a pair of the AR’s for next season but much like Anders I am uncertain on sizing. I’m 5’11”, 200 lbs and have been told the 182cm would be a good length to help me progress and handle high speed, but the 175cm would allow a more playful experience down the fall line. Does this sound about right? Did any testers experiment with the 182’s? Preemptive thank you, your site and your customer interaction is outstanding!

    1. Hi Jeremy!
      I’m 6/2 220 and I’d go 182 all day, but with three less inches and 20 less pounds, the 175 is in play for you. If you want the playful turning, the shorter length will suit those needs, and since the ski is so stable and smooth, you’re not going to lose a ton in terms of stability at speed, but that lack will be there for sure. It’s all about compromise, right? Overall, though, since you’re basically six feet tall and 200 pounds, I do think that puts you in the 182. Take care!
      SE

  8. Hi! I’m considering the Laser AR but am between sizes. I’m 5’5, 125lbs, strong skier but prefer woods to big carving. I’m skiing a Stockli Stormrider 78 in a 166 for my frontside groomer ski and I find that at higher speeds it feels like too much ski for me. I’m concerned the 168 Laser may also be too much, but not sure if 161 is too short?

    1. HI Jayke!
      I’d look to the 161. They’re very stable and smooth, even in the shorter lengths, and if you like the woods, that’ll give you some more maneuverability for sure. Have fun!
      SE

  9. I bought both the Laser ARs (168) and AXs (161) since I could not decide. The ARs were not as precise until you put them on edge: then they feel a lot like the AXs when pushing hard through turns on hard-pack. Tail stiffness lets you accelerate out of turns once you get used to them, which will take a few runs. Will take the ARs west, and ski the AXs in Michigan and east. Not expecting the ARs to be great on the back side when it snows more than 6 inches or so (will use Armada JJ’s for pow), but hopefully they will be competent in most conditions. The AXs can be skied like a race ski. The harder you press both in turns, the more they grip. I raced as a kid and still ski hard (for an older guy). 5′ 4″, 145 pounds. I haven’t been this impressed with new skis in a very long time. Great skis!

    1. Hi Hilary!
      I like seeing a Marker Royal binding on that ski, with the 90 mm brake, it fits quite well. Griffon, Jester, or Jester Pro, depending on what you want for DIN and how much money you want to spend. Have fun!
      SE

  10. Hi,
    I am looking for a new pair of ski’s.
    Middle average skiër, 1.80 cm and 70 kg.
    Like to ski the frontside pistes.
    Like to carve and cruise and want to improve my skiing.
    What size do you recommend?
    168 or 175?

    Greetings

    Bert

    1. Hi Bert!
      I’d go with the 168. Very stable and fun, and will help you progress with a super high-end feel. Great skis, have fun!
      SE

  11. I am an older master racer/race coach at 68″ and 170lbs. At the end of last year I purchased the WRT GS FIS (176 cm) and was totally impressed! I am considering changing my all mountain ski. I had the original Rossignol Experience 88 and loved that ski everywhere except it was a little stiff for deep moguls and not great in deep powder. Last year I purchased the new version of the Experience 88 and was very disappointed. It did not meet my expectation for grip on hard pack at speed and gets easily deflected in spring crud. It is better in moguls and deep powder than my older version, but I am just not happy with the ski for all around use. With no local Stockli shops I am not able to demo the skis. I like the specs of the AR but concerned about the 83 cm waist for powder and I haven’t read any reviews how it does in moguls. The Stormrider 88 has the same waist as my Experience 88’s but there I am concerned with the turn radius (18 vs 16). On the front side I like to rip short fast carving turns. When younger, I did competitive mogul skiing, so as my knees permit, I like to ski moguls, and when out west (OH/PA skier) I do like to ski front side powder, when it is available. Do you have any recommendations on a Stockli all mountain ski that meets my desires?

    1. Hi John!
      I think the AR is the way to go, and for the deeper days, you might just have to deal with a narrower ski. You just won’t get the quickness and the carving power from the 88. The AR is actually not too bad in soft snow, save for 6+ inches of snow, but how often does that happen? Other than the AR and the 88, though, there’s not much else in the Stockli line that fits your needs. The AR, even with two sheets of metal, is a pretty compliant bump ski, especially vs. the AX. Hope that helps!
      SE

  12. Hello,

    I am 40 yr old and an average to above average intermediate skier; 170cm and 68kg. I like to ski pistes with occasional off pistes/tree runs with my 8 year daughter. What size would you recommend 161cm vs 168cm? Thank you!

    1. Hi J Park!
      I think the 161 is the way to go for both on-piste performance as well as trees and bumps, especially with kids. You’ll appreciate the maneuverability for sure! Have fun!
      SE

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