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2020 Elan Ripstick 88 Ski Review

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The ~90 mm all mountain segment is arguably the most popular and potentially the most important category in skiing. These all mountain skis offer tremendous versatility, and you see more people out on the slopes on skis around this waist width than anything else. We've already looked at a lot of 2020 skis that fall into this category, and there are some impressive new contenders like the Kendo 88 and Enforcer 88. This week, we're looking at another new ski in the ~90 mm all mountain range, the Ripstick 88 from Elan. Elan essentially took the design and construction of the wider Ripstick models, which carry over from 2019, and put it into this new Ripstick 88. The new 88 replaces the Ripstick 86, which did not have all the technology found in the rest of the Ripstick line.

Back in January we were lucky enough to meet up with Glen Plake for an afternoon of skiing at Pico here in Vermont. Closed to the public for an industry demo day, the slopes were relatively empty, which made for an excellent day of testing skis. If you're unfamiliar with the Elan Ripstick collection, you're really missing out, as these skis offer a unique option within their respective waist width range (there is now a Ripstick 88, 96, 106, and 116). While other skis are designed to deliver the most power, responsiveness, edge grip, weight savings, etc, the main focus of the Ripstick line, and Elan in general these days, is fun. That's right, fun. It's hard to quantify a ski's fun-factor. It's much easier to say this ski is the lightest, this ski is the stiffest, this ski has the best vibration damping, etc. Elan is reminding all of us that above all else, skiing is supposed to be fun, which is a very refreshing mindset.

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Thus, the Elan Ripstick 88 isn't the stiffest, most powerful ski in this width range. It's not the lightest, it doesn't have the best edge grip, but there's a good possibility it's going to be the most fun for a whole lot of skiers out there. Let's take a look at shape and construction. Elan's unique Amphibio profile positions more camber along the inside edge of the ski with more rocker along the outside edge of the ski. There is specifically a right and left ski because of this, which is relatively rare across the entire industry and a concept Elan has been the leader of for quite a long time now. It's designed to boost edge grip on your inside edge, while giving the ski an overall extremely-maneuverable feel. This is further enhanced and supported by subtle early taper in both the tip and tail, corresponding to the rockered portions of the ski. Construction is also quite unique compared to other skis in this category. Elan's TNT construction is designed to provide strength, stability, and responsiveness, but also fun and accessibility. There is a wood core with tip to tail carbon tubes running through it, as well as Vapor Tip inserts. Plake talked a lot about these carbon tubes and the differences between 3-dimensional carbon fiber and the 2-dimensional sheets we see in most carbon applications. These tubes deliver more vibration damping and a smoother feel than most carbon skis. You don't get the same overly-responsive, twitchy feel that can come along with carbon.

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So, how does the Ripstick 88 compare to the other skis in this width range? Simply put, compared to most competitors' skis, it's more playful, has a more even, natural flex pattern, and is more fun and easier to ski than most. Its flex pattern feels perfect for so many applications. It's not too stiff that it feels demanding, but it's not so soft that it feels unstable. Aggressive skiers have shied away from the Ripsticks from what we've seen over the past year, but they don't necessarily need to. Again, skiing is supposed to be fun, and the Ripstick 88 will remind you how much fun you can have on a pair of skis. On groomers they have such a smooth, predictable feel. You can carve turns with great finesse, you can release the tail edge and pivot the ski very easily, and overall you can make a whole bunch of different turn shapes. You can also ski them fast and aggressively if you want to. No, they don't have the power of skis with 2 sheets of titanal, but it's far less fatiguing than skis that fall under that description. Something we talked about in great depth with Plake is the average skier's desire to be on the stiffest, most-badass, highest-ranked-by-magazine-tests skis. This isn't necessarily the right thing to do for most skiers. A ski like the Ripstick 88 will satisfy experts, but is hands-down more appropriate for intermediates or advanced-intermediates than the heavier, stiffer skis in this category. It'll make you ski better, instead of feeling like you're fighting a ski that's too much for you.

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Off groomers, their playful attitude really shines. It's easily one of the best mogul skis in this category thanks to the quickness achieved by its shape and construction. It's exceptionally easy to make quick pivoting turns, which in turn gives it a super-confidence-inspiring feel in moguls and tight terrain. Again. It's going to make you feel like a better skier. Here in Vermont, it rips through our tight trees. I found myself taking more direct lines and finding more little natural hits to pop off than I did on just about any other ski I've tested over the past year. They're just that much fun and that easy to ski. This Ripstick 88 doesn't have the most float in deep, soft snow, but there are 3 wider options for those that need the float-factor. Still, in soft snow, this shape is a dream. It's never catchy and it carries its smooth feel through just about any terrain and any kind of snow condition. Its shape is directional, but it loves to do little tricks along the way. Picture ripping your favorite bump line, then throwing a quick spraffy at the bottom. That's basically what this ski is all about: making the most fun out of whatever you encounter.

If you haven't already, we strongly encourage you to watch the video that goes along with this review. Glen Plake played a big roll in the design and production of these skis, and hearing him talk about them really gives you a good sense of Elan's direction and goals. The idea that skiing should be more about fun than anything else carries through to some of their other models as well, perhaps most notably the new Wingman series. We'll have some reviews of the Wingman skis down the road, but for now, if you're in the market for a ~90 mm all mountain ski, the Ripstick needs to at least be on your initial list of potential skis. Maybe you'll want something heavier, maybe you'll want something with less rocker. It is, of course, totally fine if you do, but this Ripstick 88 reminded a lot of the SkiEssentials.com staff just how much fun skiing is supposed to be.

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Written by Jeff Neagle on 05/09/19

61 thoughts on “2020 Elan Ripstick 88 Ski Review

  1. Great review, as always.
    I would like to know how the Elan Ripstick 88 compares to the Blizzard Brahma or the K2 Mindbender 90 ti.
    I am looking forward to your reply
    Thanks
    Hansjorg

      1. Hi Hansjorg!
        Closer to the K2 than the Brahma in terms of performance. It's quite a bit lighter feeling than the other skis, with the Brahma being the burliest and stiffest. The K2 is weighty, but feels lighter due to the construction, while the Ripstick is the most quick and nimble of the three. Hope that helps!
        SE

  2. Hey SE, I've been back and forth on what to buy for months. I'm 6'2" 260# athletic build. I'm definitely intermediate and pretty much stay on the groomers unless I get talked in to snowplowing down some blacks by my buddy. Mostly ski Big Sky. I was thinking the Brahmas might be good for my weight but are the too stiff for my skill level? 180cm? Thanks

    1. Hi Will!
      For only your skill level, they are too stiff, but you have to take your size into account as well. You do need something stable, so while they're on the high end of the skill level, they're the tool that you need. I'd definitely stick to something that has two sheets of metal like the Brahma or the Volkl Kendo. I'd say 180 for the Brahma and if you look at the Kendo, the 184 in that model. Also check out the Nordica Enforcer 88 for another comparable model. Have fun!
      SE

  3. I would like to get your advice.
    I am skiing on a K2 84ti and a Brahma 88, I like them both.
    I ski mostly on Groomers and Chop/Crud, not much in deep powder.
    I am looking for a ski that is a little bit more forgiving and fun in Moguls but is still a solid, stable performer on
    Groomers and Chop/Crud.
    MB 90ti, Ripstick 88 (Black Edition?) or any other you would recommend?
    I am looking forward to your response.

    Hansjorg

    1. Hi Hansjorg!
      I guess I'd recommend something wider than an 88, especially if you plan on keeping and skiing the K2. I'd look at mid-90's skis such as the Fischer Ranger 94 FR, Rossignol Experience 94, or a K2 Pinnacle 95 (if you can find one). This wider platform will give your 2-ski quiver a bit more of a differentiation and you'll be able to ski more terrain and snow conditions.
      If you want to stay in the 88-90 mm underfoot category, the Ripstick is lighter and more maneuverable than the MB 90, but not quite the carver at speed. Also in this category, check out the Rossignol Experience 88 and the Liberty Evolv 90.
      Hope that helps!
      SE

    1. Hi Tom!
      Not quite as good. More heft pretty much always means more stability, and with the metal laminate in the K2, it's more powerful than the Ripstick, and this definitely shows in crud and chop. But for a light ski without metal, we're pretty impressed with the Ripstick's off-piste performance. Hope that helps!
      SE

  4. I currently ski the Nordica Enforcer 93 in 185 length. What length would you recommend in the Elan Ripstick 88?

  5. Love your reviews guys! I'm trying to decide which ski to buy and am considering the Nordica Enforcer 88 & 93, Atomic Vantage 90 and the Elan Ripstick 88. I'm a 5'11" 185lb 55 yr old Advanced Intermediate and ski probably 90% on piste on the front side although I live in Colorado. I grew up in the midwest so really never learned how to ski powder well so am content to stay front side although I would like a ski that will perform at least reasonably well on powder days and even more so in the crud at the end of the day. If I decide to tackle big powder days I would probably rent wider skis anyways. My skiing style over the years has been fairly aggressive and I enjoy skiing fast although I would have to admit I'm not the speed demon I was a few years ago, plus I ski with the kids fairly often which keeps me on the blues or easy blacks when with them. I did demo the Enforcer 93 & 100 plus the Atomic Vantage ti last year and liked the Enforcer 93 the best out of them with the Vantage 97ti ranking but didn't like them in the crud. I'm leaning towards the new Enforcer 88 or 93 but am very intrigued by the Elan Ripstick as it just looks like a fun ski. I currently ski on a Atomic Vantage 90cti 169cm (with Nordica Promachine 110 boots) but they seem to ski just a bit short for me. Any advice would be greatly appreciated and thanks again for the best reviews and advice online!

    Byron

    1. Hi Byron!
      Thanks for the kind words! It sounds like you're in the right ballpark with the 88-93 underfoot skis. The Enforcer 88 is a pretty sweet ski, and if you're 90% on-piste, I'd put those over the 93--better edge grip and pop out of the turn. Between the Enforcer 88 and the Ripstick, they're pretty different animals for sure. The Enforcer is more like a Porsche, while the Elan is kind of in the high-end Lexus range. They're very nice, but more built for real-world driving/skiing scenarios. More skiers would be better served on a ski like the Ripstick, as it's light, quick, and stable when on edge, but due to the lack of metal, doesn't quite have the same fine-tuning as the Enforcer. If you're toning down the speed and skiing with kids more, I think that Elan is the better tool for your application. I'd look to the mid 170's in terms of length in either model. Hope that helps!
      SE

      1. Thanks so much for the advice and pretty much spot on what I was thinking as well. Those are the two skis I was leaning towards and I guess I'll have to decide how much I want to tone things down. I like the idea of the Ripsticks being a bit easier to ski though and really am only worried if they're hefty enough to bust thru the crud at the end of the day. Thanks again and I'll be ordering them soon.

    1. Hi Mike!
      The Elan is more lively than the Kore, mostly due to the narrower shape, but also because of the build. Elan's use of the carbon tubes that run the length of the ski makes them impressively stable and damp for their weight. They're less stiff fore/aft than the Kore, but more torsionally stiff. I was super-impressed with the edge hold of the Elan despite no metal. For mostly on-piste skiing, I'd go with the Elan while the Kore would be a better choice if you're more 50/50 and dealing with soft snow a lot of the time. Hope that helps!
      SE

      1. This site is awesome guys. I’m at a standstill on which ski to buy between the Ripstick 88 and the Rustler 9 . I ski the East Coast with variable conditions. Thanks

        1. Hi Jason!
          The Ripstick is softer and lighter overall, while the Rustler has light tips and tails but is more solid and stable underfoot. I'd say that even though the Rustler is a bit wider, it still carves and holds an edge better on super-hard snow. In medium types of snow, the Ripstick holds up great, but for eastern skiing, I'd think you'll want some metal underfoot. Both are great choices, at the end of the day.
          SE

  6. Great review Jeff, very helpful. I am an expert skier, but getting older, spend 80% of my time in mostly mogels, some trees, some steeps and some carving. 45 to 50 mph is my very top end. I enjoy a ski with nice rebound energy. I'm 5'5" and 145 lbs. I live in Colorado and have skied on Nordica Tempest 80's 162 cm for a long time - obviously time for new skii's this season.
    Looking at Head Kore 93, Elan Ripstick 88, Nordica Enforcer 88, and Rossi Experience 88 from the reviews. Thoughts and recommendations please. Thank you!

    1. Thanks, Mark!
      If you're looking for rebound and energy, it's hard to go wrong with the Rossi Experience 88. It's a bit shorter of a turner than the others on your list, so that's where the rebound comes from. The Elan and the Kore are lighter than the others, and although they're very fun and capable, the lack of metal does make them a tad less stable at speed versus the Enforcer and the Experience. But given your size, that might not be as big of an issue versus a larger skier. At the end of the day, for your application, I'd say the Experience is the way to go--a very well-rounded and accessible ski with a ton of upside and a high-performance ceiling. Have fun!
      SE

  7. I've been looking at the Ripstick 88 and last year's Ripstick 86. You've got some really good deals on last year's ski so what would I get by paying more for the newer technology in the 88? If I skied them back to back what differences would I notice in ski and feel? Thanks.

    1. Hi Bob!
      Pretty much the same ski. I think they widened it a bit just to compete with the other 88's. At 86, the Ripstick kind of sat in between front side and all mountain, and now it can be advertised as all mountain, which is a more popular category. So same build, but an edge width wider. If you can get a price on an 86, I'd go for it. Have fun!
      SE

  8. Hi guys!

    Had a chance to test the 88s recently on a gorgeous day in the French Alps( where I'm based) right after a week of snowfall and came away super impressed, particularly with how great they were on groomed and fresh snow and light yet incredibly stable and smooth they were(up to a point of course).

    However the only time I came away wanting more was in the large icey parts at the bottom of the hill where i thought the lack of metal was very noticeable.

    This left me wondering if their are a pair of skis out there that give you the Ripsticks light, nimble, funness but with metal for those hard snow days in Swiss/French alps?

    Thanks!

    1. Let me add that the ski was a dream on soft snow and its stability on piste despite its low weight and fun factor is something I value above all else so wouldn't want to compromise toooo much when looking at skis with metal - just wondering if there is something out there that comes close?

      Also saw the Stockli Stormrider 88 review you did, they seem well rounded yet less playful than the RS88s - would these or another ski be a good alternative?

  9. I'm an intermediate - advanced level skier (on the East coast) that spends roughly 90% of my time on groomers. I'm 6'3 and 205 lbs, and am going to be doing a lot of skiing this season so I'm likely to progress as a skier a decent amount. Would you recommend the 179cm or the 186cm version? Thanks

  10. I love all of your reviews.

    Currently I am an advance intermediate skier. I am currently skiing Experience 83’s.
    looking at Ripstick 88 and Blizzard Bushwacker. Ski about 75% groomers.

    Thank you

    1. Hi Sean!
      Two great choices! The Bushwacker has flat carbon laminates while the Ripstick has carbon tubes. The advantage to the tube shape is that you get multi-dimensional performance out of the carbon while the Bushwacker's carbon really only makes the ski stiffer in a fore/aft flex. It's not a huge difference, but the skis are pretty comparable. I'd give a slight performance edge to the Ripstick. Hope that helps!
      SE

  11. Hi,
    i just ordered my elan ripstick 88's 172cm, but i don't have boots yet so i'm hiring them. But there was a deal with MARKER 11.0 TCX BLACK/ANTHRACITE 20 bindings on the ski's. Now i was wondering, if i could move them without ruining my ski's so the hiring boots would fit? and how to do this!
    thanks a lot
    Victor

    1. HI Victor!
      I would definitely have the shop take a look and see what can be done. Please avoid adjusting your own bindings for safety purposes. Have fun!
      SE

  12. Hi,

    I am a 62 year old women who skied mostly in the east. I am advanced, 5’2”, 15 lbs and can do some moguls and easy trees.

    I currently ski on rossignol attraction 8 which I love. We are going out west for a 8 week retirement adventure and am looking forward to learning and enjoying some POW.

    Which would you recommend for me Elan Ripstick 94 or Ripstick 88.. I’ve narrowed it down to those 2.

    Hope you can shed some light, thanks.

    Dale McCulloch
    Montreal

    1. Hi Dale!
      I think you'll appreciate the extra width of the 94, especially for your application. They're no slouches on the groomers either, and while not quite as quick as the 88's, the 94 is a pretty capable carver. Have fun!
      SE

  13. Thanks,
    I've been a total fanboy of the Blizzard rodeo bulls since the 2010 Bodacious. Since then I wore out two pairs of Bonafide and currently loving a Latigo. Loyal to a fault, I bought the current Brahma and became disappointed. They're FAST smooth, damp yet lively. They rail groomers like a dream but they're also reluctant to release turns in steep tight gnar. I've had a history of buying the wrong~88 mm skis. I had my heart set on the Enforcer 88 but Glen's and your review has me sold. They're also fifty bucks cheaper. I'll let you know how I like them, I'm confident I'll love them.

  14. Hi Dale, Thanks very much for your awesome reviews. I have the Ripstick 88s in 179cm. I'm 5'10"/175lb/male/intermediate. Will these be OK for me to learn to do moguls or are they inappropriate for that application? Thanks.

    1. Hi Martin!
      I think the Ripstick 88 is a fantastic ski for moguls. Learning is always tough, and the flex of the Elan combined with their light weight make them a great choice for your application. There are narrower options out there, but the 88 is a very well-versed ski in all conditions and terrain. Have fun!
      SE

  15. Thanks for all your great reviews. How do
    the Ripstick 88s compare to the Wingman 86 cti? I am 6’2”, 235 lbs mid 50s and am an advanced skier. I currently have the Stormrider 88s and find them too stiff and hard to maneuver especially in moguls. Any thoughts on what might be a better option for me? Thanks

    1. Hi ChrisS!
      If you found the Stockli too stiff, then I suspect the Wingman will follow suit. They're very stiff and responsive, while the Ripstick certainly has the more playful personality. You won't get the same stability at speed, but if that's a compromise you're willing to make for maneuverability and mogul performance, then I certainly think the Ripstick is a better option. Have fun!
      SE

  16. Hi there,

    I am a New Zealand-based intermediate-advanced skier, who makes annual 3 week trips to Canada (west coast) over the Christmas to mid-Jan period. I am 184cm (~6 foot one) and 92kg (~200 pounds). 40 years old and relatively cautious non-aggressive skier.

    On our recent trip we got good consistent snowfall, and I made the call to buy a dedicated powder ski (Soul 7 at 188cm) for the powder days as the cost of renting skis for those days was beginning to rack up - they paid for themselves by the time our trip ended. For future trips, I will therefore be travelling from NZ with two pairs of skis.

    My existing "all mountain" ski is a K2 ikonic 84ti, which is great for NZ conditions (generally either ice or slush and 90% on piste), but I find them heavy and difficult to manoeuvre in the trees and moguls where we spend most of our time in Canada. I am looking at the ripstick 88 as my non-powder day ski for the northern hemisphere, as based on your incredibly helpful reviews and videos it looks like it would complement the Soul 7 for non-pow days in terms of forgiveness, lightness (important for me given airline weight restrictions), and ease of use in the trees/moguls and varied conditions which I find challenging but am looking to improve on.

    Doyou agree and/or do you think there are other skis I should be looking at for my application? What length would you recommend?

    Thanks so much for all the great information you put out there.

    Daniel

    1. Hi Daniel!
      I think you're right on the money. If you like the way the Soul flexes into the turn, the Ripstick is a similar feel, but it is so much quicker and more responsive. I skied it the other day and was very impressed with the maneuverability as well as the power. Very light and easy to turn, but you can certainly still stand on them and make them carve. I'd go with that one in the 186 and not look back!
      SE

  17. Hey guys, love the site and reviews. Knee deep in ski shopping. Used to ski mostly west, but life has now taken me to Wisconsin. I’m a 6’0, 190 lbs, adv/exp aggressive skier who goes fast but still likes that peppy response to vary up the turns. Not much off piste here in the Midwest but do make it west about 5 times per year. Looking for a daily frontside ripper with a 85-95 waist. The ripstick line keeps catching my eye but would I find them too soft? Thought a 186 length might help with that or should I lean toward something with metal for stability like the enforcer 88? Really appreciate the insight guys!

    1. Hi Shawn!
      Good to be knee deep in ski anything! I think you're going to find the Ripstick to be soft. I'm 6'2 220, so I certainly overpower the skis, at least in the tips, but if you've got the aggressiveness and speed, it might be on the chattery side. In that range, there's a lot of good options. There's a lot of good options with partial metal in that category such as the K2 Mindbender 90 Ti and the Blizzard Rustler 9. Probably on the wider side for your application, but still adept carvers. In the 88 range, look to the Volkl Kendo, Nordica Enforcer 88, and Rossignol Experience 88 Ti for strong all-mountain/front side skis. I think that mid-180's is a good place to be on any of these. Have fun!
      SE

  18. Hi SE, love the reviews and the videos are awesome. You guys really know your stuff! Looking to get new skis this year. I'm 52, 5'9" 210 advanced skier. I don't ski as fast as I used to and would rather be in the trees and bumps all day if they are skiable. I Ski the East and you know how that can be. Still love steeps and love to ski the edges of trail and do some jumping. I've been skiing the last 16 yrs on Dynastar Skicross 9 which was called all mountain but 67 under foot. I have been considering the Ripstick 88, Wingman 86 ti orange and the Nordica Navigator 85. Am I missing a ski? This will be a big adjustment in width for me. I'd rather be skiing short turns than long GS but I need the edge hold for ice and skied off trails. I've got a trip planned to Stowe for February vacation and may demo from you that week. What direction would you point me in? Thanks again for all your great reviews!

    1. Thanks, Shawn!
      I don't think the 85-88 range is a stretch for you. The Ripstick is the most all-mountain/versatile of the group while the Wingman and Navigator are grippy and snappy and a ton of fun. The Elan might not have the hard-snow performance you're looking for. If you're sticking primarily to groomers and value edge grip, I'd look to the Navigator. The Wingman is a great ski and worthy of consideration, but the Navigator has had great success over the years. See you in February!
      SE

  19. I am an East Coast skier, advanced skill level, 5'11". I tend to ski pretty aggressively on groomers, and slow and relaxed in bumps and trees. I currently own Mantra M5 in 184, which I love as my hard charging groomer buster for all conditions. I love to carve hard and really drive the ski when in piste. However, after a full weekend of skiing that ski, it gets exhausting, and it is not the ski for me in bumps or trees.

    I would like to add another ski to the quiver that is a light, playful, relaxed ski that thrives in bumps and tight terrain but that will also be serviceable on east coast hard pack for when I need a break from the heaviness of the Mantra.

    It sounds like the the ripstick 88 is a good candidate. I was also looking at the Cassiar A87. Would you have any suggestions for other skis that may fit the bill , and feedback on those models to help me narrow the search?

    Thank you very much!

    1. Hi Richard!
      I think you're in the right place with the ~88 skis without metal. The Blizzard Bushwacker and Volkl Kanjo could also be on that list. Versus the Cassiar, the Elan and Blizzard are a bit more playful while the DPS has more of a carving mentality. I skied the Elan the other day and loved it. I'm 220 pounds and I could overpower it, but it was so much fun in the bumps and trees, and the tail was grippy, so I was pretty impressed. The Bushwacker is just all-around fun--great carver for a ski with no metal. Have fun!
      SE

      1. Thank you for the reply. I quick follow up:

        I am between sizes in this ski. 181 is the perfect size for me. 184 is just fine, but too long for for trees and bumps. 177 is way too short for me unless just riding in narrow trees.

        With this ski at 179 and 186, I'm not sure which size to go...especially with early taper. Could you make a suggestion on size please?

  20. Hey guys! Struggling to find the right skis and wonder if you can help. I'm 5'10 and 162lbs an advanced skier on an old pair of atomic seventh heavens. Love the groomers but need something wider underfoot for the BC powder days and we've had a lot this winter!! I don't mind using a man's ski and have demoed the Head Core 93 171cm, not a fan. The ripstick 88 sound fun and that's what I'm looking for. 60:40 groomer's:off piste & moguls. When I took back the core 93 after the demo the guy suggested Mindbender 88T 163 or black pearl 88 166. Haven't tried them yet. What would you suggest? All I know is my current 79 under foot is not enough for the amazing powder this season! Appreciate your help!!

    1. Hi Daphne!
      I wouldn't look at anything under 90 mm underfoot at this point. On the guy's side, look to the Mindbender 90 Ti. If you didn't like the Kore, you'll likely enjoy the K2. The Black Pearl will be on the light side--more along the lines of the Ripstick. I'd still look wider, also check out the Blizzard Rustler/Sheeva 9 or the Salomon QST 92. Have fun!
      SE

  21. Hi. I’m 5’8”. 57 years old. High intermediate skill level. Like the groomed but look for powder when it’s available. Used to ski moguls frequently but less often now Ski primarily piste. Spring skiing lots of slurpee. Been using K2 Apache for 8 years.
    Elan Ripstick 88 or K2 Mindbender 86?

    1. Hi Michael!
      I think the Ripstick 88 is the way to go. The K2 is fine, but is lighter and softer. For a bit more performance, the Ripstick is super-fun. Have a great time!
      SE

  22. hi im 5'8" 163lbs male 48 years old intermediate skier stuggling to decide between 158 or 165 for the ripstick 88 please advise. thanks 🙂
    i like to and want to feel in total control most of the time if possible i like to carve but dont need to try and be the fastest and keep up with every one on the slope, i want to do the odd small jump here and there and go in and out of the trees i tend to stay away from moguels.
    the 158 ripstick come to the tip of my nose.
    i did demo the wingman 86cti in a 172 but they felt way to long.

    1. Hi Glenn!
      You may like the quickness and maneuverability of the 158 from time to time, but overall I think you'll appreciate the stability and performance of the 165. And yes, I'd assume the long Wingman was a challenge. Have fun!
      SE

  23. Hi!
    I have been riding the 88 (179cm) for a few weeks now and I do agree these are fun!!
    I was wondering if you tried a setup on the plus side (more on the center of the ski) than the ride mark...
    I do mostly groomers and trees and I am considering trying it do see if I could gain even more control..
    Thanks!!

    1. Hi Phil!
      Unless you are really sure that you like a ski mounted a certain way, we'd always recommend the standard position. Moving forward will make the ski more turny in the front and more hooky in the back. Have fun!
      SE

  24. Hey Guys, thanks for the review super helpful and thorough!

    I'm an intermediate skier, approaching advanced at 6ft 145lbs. I ski in the French Alps, currently about 70-80% on piste, but going a bit more off piste as I progress and am also learning to ski bumps. I inherited a pair of K2 Kung Fujas that's I've skied for the past 2 seasons, but was looking for some skis that are a bit more nimble piste and potentially a bit easier to handle.

    I was looking at the Ripstick 88s due to their lighter weight and a bit more flex, which I think could suit my lighter frame a bit better. I've also looked at the Nordica Enforcer/Navigators as well as the Wingman. I'm also a bit torn between the 172 and 179s. Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks again!

    1. HI Kyle!
      I think at your weight, something light like the Ripstick is the way to go. Enforcer and Wingman are pretty heavy and demanding while the Navigator is a good secondary choice for a strong carver, just not as nimble or playful as the Elan. I'd think the 179 is appropriate for your height and the fact that you're on-piste more, but if you value quickness and playfulness more, the 172 is certainly still a good option. Take care!
      SE

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