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2020 Fischer RC ONE 86 GT Ski Review

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Back in February we released a video and article featuring Mike Hattrup presenting the 2020 Fischer alpine ski collection. Since then, we've taken a closer look at both the Ranger 94 FR and the Ranger 99 Ti, but now it's time to go narrower. The RC One collection of skis has replaced the Pro Mountain series from years past. We went over some of the changes to the skis with Mike Hattrup, but we wanted to spend some time giving this new collection, and specifically the RC One 86 GT, a little more attention. Simply put, they deserve it.

The RC One 86 GT is the widest ski in what Fischer refers to as their Piste category, commonly referred to as frontside. These skis are more focused on firm snow and carving performance than their wider Ranger brethren. The narrower models, those dropping below 80 mm underfoot, will prefer to stay on trail whenever possible, but the RC One 86 GT has some versatility in it. Fischer's All Mountain rocker profile works in some subtle rise into the tips and tails, and there's even some early taper as well. It's more pronounced in the tail, although it's not very long. In the tip, it's more of a straightened portion going into the tip rather than drastic taper, but it's enough that it helps make the ski feel catch-free in softer conditions. It also uses Fischer's Triple Radius design with shorter radii found in the tip and tail and longer radii underfoot. This is a similar concept as we've seen from other manufacturers, but actually has opposite positioning of short vs long radii than we've looked at in some recent reviews.

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The shape of the RC One 86 GT is undoubtedly responsible for its versatility. It's power, precision, and frontside prowess, however, comes more from its construction. This ski uses the same thickness metal as Fischer's world cup race skis, a full .8 mm thickness Titanal. That's really thick. It might not seem like it if you don't pay close attention to ski construction, but it's pretty rare to see anything go over .7 mm in a consumer ski, and even that is thick. It's the thickest metal in the line, and also more than we saw in any of the Pro Mountain skis. Metal is a proven material, and the RC One 86 GT has a lot of it. To shed some weight, however, Fischer integrates a material into the tip called Bafatex. Popular in high-end race sail construction, this ultra-light material helps reduce swing weight and overall oscillation of tip (chatter and tip flap) and tail, but retains good torsional stiffness for powerful turn entry. On paper, the RC One 86 GT is not exactly what you'd call a lightweight ski, but by removing some of the weight in the tips and tails and focusing it closer to your feet, it feels lighter when you're skiing it than it actually is.

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As it sits in Fischer's Piste collection, let's start by talking about how it performs on the groomers. Simply put, it performs very well. The overall turn radius of the 175 cm length is 17 m, but with that longer portion underfoot, if you're charging hard, you can make some pretty long carving turns on it. The torsional stiffness, powerful vibration damping, and overall feel provided by that .8 mm thick metal is hands-down impressive. You can give it everything you've got and the ski stays quiet and composed, yet also responsive. Some heavy skis with a lot of metal feel like they require a tremendous amount of skier input, but the RC One 86 GT somehow achieves an easier feel overall, yet has a very high performance ceiling (I certainly never found it). The first time I tested this ski I had been skiing on much narrower, more frontside-specific carving skis throughout the morning. Switching to the RC One 86 GT was impressive as it held up to, and even out-performed, some of those narrower models. I was a bit weary of the shorter effective edge provided by that All Mountain rocker profile and the early taper in the tail at first. Admittedly, I didn't expect this ski to hold an edge as well as it does and feel as powerful as it does. It's a pretty significantly step up from the Pro Mountain in my opinion. It's a stiff, powerful ski. The Pro Mountain had more flex to it, which took away some of the raw stability compared to the RC One 86 GT that replaces it.

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So, it's stiff, it's pretty heavy, and it's a powerful ski on the frontside. We've all been down that road before, right? It's going to be a handful in anything un-groomed and just generally not that much fun. Well, if that's what you're thinking, we're here to set the record straight. For how powerful it is, the RC One 86 GT is a whole heck of a lot of fun off-piste too. We're not really sure why it feels as quick as it does. Just based on its listed weight, it shouldn't. That Bafatex material integrated into the tip and the shaping concept of this ski give it a much smoother, easier feel in soft snow and tight terrain than you'd expect. Sure, if you line it up against a ski like the Ranger 94 FR, it's going to be harder to ski in those situations and require a more skilled skier, but it drastically outperforms a ski like that when you're back on the groomers. It doesn't feel particularly floaty, but it is pretty easy to make quick slashing or pivoting turns. It absolutely blasts through crud and chop too, almost just as well as some of the wider, more freeride-dedicated Ranger models.

Most skiers spend most of their time on groomed runs, that's just the truth. We all like to think about blasting pillow lines and skiing chest-deep powder, but realistically that doesn't happen very often. If you live in a place that receives over 600 annual inches of snowfall, please forgive our generalizations. The RC One 86 GT is an absolute blast to ski on firm, steep, groomed runs. It'll put a smile on an advanced/expert level skier every single day regardless of whether there's fresh snow or not. You'll be riding the lift next to someone on a super-rockered, over-100-mm-underfoot ski on a boilerplate groomer. He or she will be complaining about the lack of recent snowfall, and you'll just be sitting there smiling to yourself about how much fun you're having.

Is the RC One 86 GT a good replacement to the Pro Mountain series? Absolutely. Does it step up the performance? Yes. Does it rival existing, popular all-mountain skis in the mid-80 mm range? Well, yes it does. In fact, it's a significant new player in arguably the most popular category of skis right now. Anyone looking for versatile all-mountain performance with strong frontside carving ability should at least be considering a Fischer, that's for sure.

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Written by Jeff Neagle on 08/29/19

84 thoughts on “2020 Fischer RC ONE 86 GT Ski Review

  1. How does this compare with the Volkl Deacon 84? I ski mostly on the East Coast, mostly on steep groomers with marginal "snow" (often artificial, often icy), but I like to go out to Utah once a year, and I would prefer to not have to rent another pair of skis there. Also, would you recommend any other skis in this category?

    1. Hi Matt!
      Great comparative ski. The Fischer is stiffer, plain and simple. The underfoot and through the tail of the Fischer is pretty extraordinary. I really like the Deacon 84 but found it to be a bit more bland than the energetic Fischer. That said, the Fischer is more demanding and requires full-time attention--not as easy to relax and smear as the Deacon 84. There's a few more good options, check out the K2 iKonic 84Ti, and the Liberty V82 as a sleeper ski.
      I'd also advise renting skis in Utah versus any of the skis on your current list. It's a lose-lose if you bring your skis. If you go to Utah and it doesn't snow, then you've missed out on the powder but if it does snow and you have your 84/86's, you'll wish you had wider skis. Also don't have to travel with skis, for what it's worth to you! Have a great winter!

  2. Hello
    I currently have the Salomon Enduro XT800. I like these skis very much but they have had their best time so I would like to buy new gear next winter. How does the Fischer RC One 86 GT compare with the Salomon Enduro XT800? Would the Fischer RC One 86 GT be an improvement?
    Or do you have other recommendations?
    And what length would you suggest (I 'm 178 cm tall, my good old Salomon skis are 175 cm).

    1. Hi Geert!
      Great comparison! It's always fun to see how a ski of yesteryear stacks up against our modern marvels. I'd definitely say the 86 GT is a step up, certainly in terms of pure carving performance. The bit of tip and tail rocker make the ski surprisingly agile, but that underfoot stiffness and torsional rigidity is off the charts. That said, it's not a punishing ski, as you can change up your turn shape however you wish. Also check out the Volkl Deacon 84 or the K2 iKonic 84 Ti for comparison. All great all-mountain carvers with a ton of upside. I'd say the low to mid-170s is appropriate for length.

  3. I am 59 years old. Advanced skier, spending 80% of time on groomers. Mostly ski Whistler and some local Seattle runs. Snow can get soggy and thick at times. Deciding between Vantage 90Ti or the Fischer RC one 86. Which would you suggest?

    1. Hi David!
      Both are great ski, but there's a pretty significant weight difference. The Fischer is heavier, burlier, and better suited to deep carves while the Atomic is lighter and more maneuverable, but not as stable as the Fischer. Have fun!

      1. thanks you so much for the detailed tip. I will definitely look you guys up next time on east coast. I am 6'2" but very lean (172) so may go with the Atomic for its lightness. But will envy those on the Fischer on crud filled slopes.

  4. Hi! I'm deciding between this one and Rossignol Experience 88. I have to confess I'm a bit Fischer aficionado, i have skied different Fischer GS\SL skis and i really enjoy carving with my WC SL. I'm looking a ski to replace my Watea 86 which I mainly use for poor weather conditions and relaxing easier days, mainly for frontside skiing with occasional offpiste. I really like the idea of an all mountain carving ski but i am a bit worried Fischer would be too demanding in the softer snow and crud. The amount of metal suggests that despite the triple radius and the rocker 86 GT should feel something like a wider kind of GS ski, quite heavy and demanding, not really a ski to enjoy if you are not charging all the time. I wonder how does it compare to Rossignol Experience 88? Rossi should be more relaxing, but how much does it loose in the carving department?

    1. Hi Ivar!
      You've pretty much nailed it. What you lose in carving power in the 88, you gain in versatility and usability. I loved the smoothness and dampness of the RC One, but I couldn't see myself skiing it every day. The 88 is much better suited for all-mountain skiing, and still has a very high-performance ceiling with great carving capabilities. Not sure I can quantify how much better the 86 is at carving than the 88, but I don't think that difference outweighs the versatility gap. Hope that helps!

      1. Thanks a lot! Your review and comments really helped. RC One 86 GT looks a great ski for power day blast or for more agressive skiers.

        1. I gave 86 GT a try... and I must say i am disappointed. My feeling is that the review soften things up quite a bit. I find these very stiff, heavy and demanding skis. The grip is exceptional, almost WC GS level, but you need to have very strong legs to push them all the time. These definitely are only for strong athletes. A "normal" person will not enjoy these skis as Fischer promotes it all day long and in any condition. They are way too demanding. And they are not fun skis. These are very serious skis, you ski them only with your race face on. I can't even think what they are intended for... They ARE an absolute handful in bumps or trees or chopped pistes. They are good only on smooth runs, but i cannot see the point why they have to be this wide and heavy then.

          1. Ivar,
            Would you be able to give some feedback on your background about height, weight skiing experience? I'm trying to decide between The 86 gt's and K2 Konic 85ti's for the next season! Any input from you or Ski Essentials would be appreciated. My concern was also the weight, but Ski Essentials review seem to point out that the weight isn't really "felt" so to speak.

          2. Yes they are essentially a firm snow ski with an outrageous performance potential that can accessed by mere mortals is a brilliant feat of engineering.
            Their width makes them more versatile while their shape and construction let's them carve a radius that feels tighter than 17m when engaging the tip.
            I normally ski Brahmas but compared to these they feel soft and have definitely pushed my skiing up a level.
            I downsized to a 175 86 Get from 180 Brahma and felt right.

          3. Love my 86 GT's for ripping arcs, dropping a hip, and even some off piste corn snow.., and they provide a huge fun factor for me when the snow is on the firm side. These are not my soft snow skis. I ski Palisades (Squaw) and even on bumps have had surprisingly good performance. they have upped my skiing level though, so I can see where they are not for everyone. And I'm 65, 5'11" 170#. Ski the 175's. This ski is my poor man's Stockli AR.

  5. I am 5 ' 7" 195lb aggressive skier trying to decide what length 168 or 175 for the Fischer RC ONE 86 GT.
    I currently ski on a 168 Nordica Firearrow EDT (which ski I absolutely love).
    What do you suggest ?

    1. Hi Charles!
      The 168 is the way to go. You're used to the length, and it sounds like you like it. The 86 GT is very stable, so I see no reason to size up. Have fun!

  6. I am a 60ish western skier -colorado and new mexico- have been skiing on Atomic Blackeye Ti's which I love-74 cm-looking for comparable replacement in the Fischer 86 gt - how do they compare ?

    1. Hi Richard!
      Very similar, actually, in terms of weight and stiffness. I think the more modern GT 86 will impress you with its versatility as well as its stiffness and stability. Both are pretty heavy, but the Fischer has a bit more maneuverability in the tips and tails. A bit more width for the Fischer as well, adding more float and balance. Have fun!

  7. Hi,
    i'm looking for a good carving all mountain ski that is also quick edge to edge when it needs to be. I ski mostly in the east and my Blizzard 81 magnums no longer hold an edge very well, so it's time for a change. I am an expert skier and aggressive, though not as aggressive at 56 as i used to be. My concern is that I'm 5' 5" and only 132 lbs and the last really stiff ski i had was the Vokyl 6 star. They were great but at my weight i felt i had to be really on top of the ski all the time, i could never relax. I'm worried the RC 86 will be too stiff? Additionally, I've always skied on longer skis (195 cm pre shaped era) so was wondering if I should move even lower than the 165-168cm range I usually get now?
    Thanks for any advice.

    1. Hi Jim!
      They are quite stiff, but the performance is unbelievable. For a bit quicker of a ski, they also make the ski in an 82 mm waist, so that's worth a second look. In that same mid-80's underfoot carving ski, also check out the 2020 Volkl Deacon 84 (or 80 for a narrower, slightly more forgiving option). I think that mid-160's range is just fine. Have fun!

  8. I have been skiing on an old pair of Fischer AMC 79s at 176cm (74 waist). I’m 50, 6’2 and 225lbs. Ski level advanced. I’ve had a lot of fun on the shorter skis and can enjoy some powder but I have a pair of fatter skis for the deeper snow. Can I get away with 175cm and still have stability while at speed? What bindings do you suggest? My typical DIN setting is 8 to 8.5.
    Thank you!

    1. Hi Charles!
      It's a system ski that comes with bindings, so you're all set there. In terms of length, I think you'd prefer the longer size, even though they're pretty burly. Unless you know that you like the 176 and are willing to sacrifice a bit of stability at speed, I'd take the 182. Have fun!

  9. Dear SkiEssentials,
    In October, after researching the Fischer RC One 86 GT and watching your review video, I bought a pair from SkiEssentials. You gave me a great price and the skis were at my door in 2 days.
    I ski at Sugarloaf, Maine and have a quiver of 5 different pairs of skis ranging from Blizzard Quattro 8.4 Ti to Blizzard Brahma 88's to Nordica Enforcer 100's. All I can say about this ski is, "Wow!". I have skied them 4 days so far on manmade hard pack, some natural snow and crud. What a wonderful ski.
    When I first took them out of the box and flexed them, I was a bit intimidated by the flex pattern because they are stiff and pretty heavy. But they don't ski that way. The way they relieve the titanal sheets and replace it with Bafatec in the tip and tail make turn initiation very predictable and precise, yet not overbearing. The edge grip is tenacious to say the least. But the ski is so much fun and so playful, especially in the crud, I almost can't believe it.
    This ski has become my number one for the season. Thanks to SkiEssentials for such a great video review that describes these skis perfectly as well as such a great price and service.

  10. I ski the east (VT) and last year I skied on the Pro Mtn 86 and Blizzard Rustler 9. The Rustlers were just too soft. But they were very forgiving. Very. I found them to be a good bump ski, but I spend only about 5-10% of my time in bumps. So when I was charging, they chattered way too much. It just became a hassle to keep changing skis. This year I'm on Stormrider 95's and Laser ARs. I was out on the Stormriders today. Took awhile to get used to them. But it was snowing all day and by 3pm we had almost 6 inches of new snow. I think it's the right ski. I'm a also sure that that the Laser will be a great carving option for me in hardpack days. I'm wondering how this Fischer is in the bumps. I'm also wondering what you'd recommend in the 85ish underfoot range. I seem to be missing that slot in the quiver and I think I'd be happy with something there.

  11. I love my Nordica Enforcer 100 all over the mountain, even carving on the hard pack. I am 83 and 155#, 5'9", ski fast in the north west.
    Is the Fisher 86 going to be that much more fun on the front side and what size would you recommend?

    1. Hi Pappy!
      It's a fantastic front-side ski--much more precise and responsive than the Enforcer (which I ski and love as well). I'd look to the 168 in terms of length. Have fun!

  12. Hello,
    Was looking into getting a pair of the RC One 86 GTs and was wondering what length you would recommend? Will be skied mostly in the French Alps, probably 70/30 groomers and hard pack / off-piste, moguls and crud. Wouldn't use these on a big powder day though would probably go and rent something in the 100 width range. Am 6'1 (184-185cm), 220lbs, advanced level, but historically have skied more on widths in the 175-180 range so was favouring the 175s (thought the 182 might be a bit long). Used to enjoy the Pro MTN range so that also made me think the 175 would be more suitable.2 Also was deciding between these and the RC One 82 but was coming out in favour of this given am a bit heavier? Any thoughts much appreciated. Thanks very much!

    1. Hi Alex!
      You're not going to see a huge weight difference between the 86 and 82, but in terms of building a two-ski quiver, the 82 will be more different in terms of width versus your 100 ski, if that does anything for you. I'd say your size puts you in the 182 range, as I think you'd appreciate the stability. Hope that helps!

  13. Hi SE-Team,
    first let me say that I really really enjoy your website and your youtube content. Couldn't find a website here in Austria or Europe in general that is so passionate about skiing, reviews and helping skiers to get on the next level. Thanks for that.
    My question in regard to the Fischer RC One 86 GT is about buying a Ranger 94 FR additional to this ski. This winter i went for renting the Völkl Deacon 84 and the Atomic X9 WB. Great Skis but since the Deacon is basically sold out in my length and the Atomic being to expensive for just his field of application, I'm thinking of buying these 2 Fischers for a similiar price.
    I ski mostly groomers/crud (advanced) and powder till now only next to the slope (beginner) (80%/20%). I want to improve my powder and switch skills, but still have skis that can handle most snow conditions.
    So is that combination of the One 86 GT for mostly groomers and crud and the Ranger FR 94 for some powder sessions and learning how to ski switch but still ski sometimes on groomed runs something you guys would recommend?
    Thanks Aleks

    1. Thanks, Aleks!
      Skiing is fun! Both are fantastic skis, especially the 86 for groomers--unbelievably stable and with edge grip for days. In terms of the secondary ski, I'd recommend increasing your gap to the Ranger 102 FR. This way your bases are more than covered--there might be a bit too much overlap between the 86 and 94. That 102 is still a pretty competent ski for all-conditions, so I wouldn't let the extra width throw you off. Hope that helps!

      1. Thanks for the advice. After reviewing all your youtube content and online reviews again, i consider to go for the Atomic Bent Chetler 100 in 188 cm instead in addition to the Fischer RC One 86 GT. I just loved your video and I think it will meet my expectations. It works on groomers, i can level up my powder skills and start learning switch, so this might work.
        Thank you guys.

  14. Hello,
    I am considering getting new skies and the two I looking at are the Fischer RC One 86 GT (168) or the Vockle Deacon 79 (163). I consider myself an intermediate skier -can do blue runs in Deer Valley and Jackson Hole. I am 5.7, 163 and 61 years old. My parallel turns are almost there (right much better than left). I'd like to get a ski that may help me to be a better skier. Do not ski fast and I am cautious. I currently Dynastar Cham 2.0 97 which I think they may be too wide as I mostly ski groomed runs. My first pair of skies were Vockle. Do you have an opinion as to which ski be better for me? Neither?
    Thank you

    1. Hi Antonio!
      I think you're a Deacon 79 skier. The Fischer will be too stiff and heavy for your application, and the Deacon sits right in the sweet spot in terms of ease of use, but also a fun high-performance ceiling. Certainly better edge grip than your Cham and are a great, energetic, and fun choice for groomed terrain. For comparison, check out the Blizzard Quattro 8.0 Ca--same type of build and performance, just another option! Have fun!

  15. Hello Ski Essentials:
    First just wanted to thank you folks for the great reviews and chat section!!!
    So, I missed out on a demo day in Mid December at Loon mountain when the Fischer skis were there to try-- with the trend to narrower waist skis, I was thinking of adding a ski with more carve. I saw your video reviews and the RC1 86 and it made the cover of ski magazine, that got me interested.
    The local ski shops here in Northern New Hampshire did have some demos, but they went fast and the demo skis were sold as well. So- I am on the verge of ordering the RC1 online.
    Everything I have read makes me think I will love it---
    I was thinking 168cm although my girlfriend was thinking if I got the 161- she could ski as well since the binding is easy to adjust. But I think the 161 might seem to short for me. We are looking for the ski handle our normal hardpack.
    Me- ski instructor at Loon, 190lbs - 5ft 8 she is 5-4 180lbs.
    All my other skis are somewhat wider so having the 86 could be great. My all mountain collection includes:
    a 6 year old Bonafide 98 174cm, the new Volkl mantra M5 96 170cm, and the Renoun endurance (98 underfoot / 170cm lg)
    After reading the reviews and your chat section- I just wanted to jump in--- My only concern might be that the 86gt might not feel much different than the Volkl Manta 96 underfoot with only 10mm difference....
    or--- the Fischer design will just carve much better on the ice. (get the 168cm and love it)
    Thanks Larry

    1. Hi Larry!
      I think the 161 would be short for you and a bit long for her. Great idea though! Versus the M5, the GT 86 pretty much blows it out of the water on the ice. It's incredibly responsive and stable, and the roundness of the turn through the tail is impressive at worst. It's just a superior carver in terms of shape and build, so I wouldn't say it doubles up with the Mantra. Get the 168 and love it.

  16. Hello,
    First of all, congratulations on your reviews, they are so helpful.
    I would like your advise as I would like to buy a pair of all-mountain skis.
    I am an advanced skier, not an expert, skiing about 20 days / season (186cm / 48 years / 100 kgs) in good physical condition.
    I come from a pair of volkl ac4 unlimited.
    Last weekend, I rented the Fischer rc one 86 gt which I thought was great, but I only tried them on piste. most of the time I ski on the piste, but whenever the conditions are good, I also like to go off piste, so I'm looking for something polivalent.
    I ski in the Pyrenees.
    I was doubting in between the following options;
    Fischer Rc one 86 GT (182cms)
    Rossignol Experience 88ti (180cms)
    Salomon XDR88ti (179cms)
    Blizzar Brahma 88 (180cms).
    Thank you in advance and kind regards from the Basque Country and keep up the great work!!!

    1. Hi Borja!
      The 86 GT is going to be your one-trick pony on that list. Certainly the strongest on-trail performer. On the other end, The Experience will give you the most versatility, followed closely by the XDR. The Brahma is a mix of the on-trail performance of the 86 GT and a stiff GS ski. There's not a lot of give to it, but it is the highest overall performer of the group. Endless stability in the Brahma, and certainly more demanding than the other 88's. Hope that helps!

      1. Hi,
        Thank you so much for your great advise. I think I will go for the Fischer 86Gt, then.
        Kind regards and have a good day,

  17. I am 62 years old, 5" 11" tall, and weigh 153 pounds. Advanced skier who skis primarily on piste and on groomers. I have owned the Fischer Pro Mountain 86 in 175cm and liked that ski in that size. How does the Fischer RC One 86 compare to the Pro Mountain 86? Is the RC One 86 a more demanding ski? What size would you recommend for me in the RC One 86-168cm or 175cm?

    1. Hi Tom!
      I'd say the RC One is a better on-trail ski while the Pro MT at least offered a disguise of versatility. The RC One will blast through crud, but really prefers to be on edge in an on-piste format. I'd go 175 in that ski. Have fun!

  18. Jeff / SE-Team,
    Thanks for the great review. I'm looking for a hard charger to help me up my railing & bump game on firm on-piste conditions, and these sound perfect. The one issue I have is the integrated bindings. Please don't laugh, but I've been skiing freeheel for the last 17 years, mostly in the stiffest boots & bindings available, and love to carve whether it's a tele or a parallel turn. Is there any chance that I could mount some tele binders (22 Designs Outlaws) on these pups and rip away?

    1. Hi Mike!
      So it looks like that plate is held in by at least three bolts/screws, so my guess is that you can pop it off, plug up the holes and mount your binding to it. I'd hate for the holes to line up with your tele pattern--can't quite speak to that. If you're not sure about this setup, check out the Elan Wingman 86 CTi that does come flat. Similar burliness and fun levels. Good luck!

  19. Hello Ski Essentials:
    This is Larry- a few chats ago we discussed the 86 gt ski. Now I have had a chance to try it on a NH demo day last weekend.
    First I tried the Head super shape rally - 163cm was what was available. Then the RC! 86 in a 175cm.
    I love the way they both felt. The 163 head might have a been short, hard to really tell after only a few runs; the Fischer felt great too although I would have wanted to try a 168cm.
    Just wanted to get you folks comparison on those two skis- I think either would be good companion to my Mantra M5.
    advanced skier 5ft-8 190lbs
    Thank you Larry

  20. Hi I am 61 weigh 100kg and have skied on Fischer RX8 intermediate plus but not expert but now want to buy a new pair for skiing on groomed piste in Quebe - I ski fast and short/giant slalom
    . What do you recommend I have a weak right knee.

    1. HI Daniel!
      I'd say the Fischer is on the heavy side for you, especially with a weak knee. Check out the Blizzard Brahma 82 for a good mix of piste performance without a ton of weight. Have fun!

  21. Ive been skiing Atomic Beta Race Car 9'20's for years and need to replace them. I'm 55 but very athletic and play ice hockey at a high level a few times a week. I ski very fast, much like I'm running a GS course, but have done it with a stiff SL ski. I enjoy working hard and really driving the ski and carving hard thru my turns. I mostly ski Smuggs and do enjoy my fair share of tree skiing when we get dumped on. I'm a former racer in my youth and was a ski instructor for years, but I still ski the same I did when I was younger, thank god. I purchased a pair of Soul 7's a few years back and enjoyed them, but they might be better if I ever slow down. I've hit 80+ mph many times on the Atomics and need something that's strong, snappy, and quick with short radius turns as well. In your opinion, would this be a good fit for me? I need to buy something this week as were heading to Smuggs March 1. Thx!!!

    1. Hi Michael!
      A great choice for you for sure. They're not quite as straight as the Atomics so you're likely going to find that they like to be on edge, but when they are, they're about as smooth and stable as they come. Have fun!

  22. Great review, thanks also for the valuable comments. Bought the GT86 in 175 and found it excels in all criteria I had set for myself. Positive surprise is the stability and lift it gives a grown skier in bumpy terrain and varying snow conditions, especially pow. Here it feels similar to the experience I get when occasionally skiing my GS in freshies, just way more forgiving due to their width. On hard-packed groomed snow it works like a powerful carving machine. My conclusion is it's effectively a 50/50 combination for on- and off-piste. LES

  23. I've been skiing the Kastle MX89 for the past two years. Would you say this is more carving and less all mountain than the MX 89?

    1. HI JJ!
      The Fischer is certainly heavier and probably a bit stiffer, and I found that it felt most at home in a carved turn. Same can be said about the MX 89, it's just a bit lighter and more flexible. Have fun!

  24. Hey there!
    Great review. I'm a Fischer guy at heart and have been skiing a slightly older model of World Cup Slaloms (166cm) over the past 6-7 years. Absolutely love them. I had an unfortunate accident in which the bindings broke one time, and had to rent a pair of skis for the remainder of the day. When it comes to skis for me, the more aggressive the better. So when I told the rental fellas to hand me the most aggressive they had, I was a little doubtful when they handed me the 86gt (161cm) simply due to how wide it appeared at first glance (I can't recall the waist measurement, but the turn radius on my World Cups is 13m, just for a little insight). But I was dumbfounded by how responsive and snappy they were! They held a seemingly unshakeable edge on the groomers, yet carried a surprising amount of snappy power in the crud while feeling reasonably light throughout, as you aptly described them despite their physical makeup. I had a stupid grin on my face every time I put them on edge. Long story short, I fell in love with them and am now on the hunt for a pair of my own. And yes...I admittedly love them more than my beloved World Cups. Thanks again for the review, and have a wonderful day!

  25. Hi SE,
    I am trying to decide which RC One GT to get - 78 or 82 or 86? I don’t see much reviews on the 78 GT and only some on the 82 GT. Given that I primarily ski in the US north east corridor, which RC One model would you recommend? I am an advance level aggressive skier that loves to carve varied turns and generally have fun skiing fast with my family and friends, 176cm tall and weigh 167-170 pounds.
    Also, you had made a comment on the 86 GT vs M5 Mantra - which is better for true all mountain use in the US north east corridor that includes some off piste duty, carving in varied snow conditions, hard pack, moguls and trees? You mentioned above that 86 GT beats the M5 Mantra in “ice” - do you mean boiler plate hard pack ice? What about other conditions I mentioned above?

    1. HI JC!
      The 86 is the most versatile/all-mountain while the 78 is a bit softer than the other widths. The 82 is just a pared down version of the 86, so if you're looking for a bit quicker of a ski, the 82 is the way to go. I wouldn't be a big proponent of taking the 86 into moguls and trees--they're pretty heavy. The Mantra is no feather either, but it is better suited for variable snow conditions. For a ski that's 96 mm wide, the Mantra holds well on ice, but nowhere near the grip and capability that the Fischers have. I'd take the 78 off the list, and then decide your width and amount of versatility. For pure carving, 82, for mixed carving, 86, and for true all-mountain versatility, Mantra. Take care!

      1. Hi SE!
        Thanks for the answers. I always thought the 78 GT and the 82 GT have the same core construction along with the same double titanal laminates of 0.5mm. So the width difference of 4mm should translate into better carving capabilities for the narrower 78 GT - do you agree?
        I wouldn’t mind the 82 GT as I am looking into adding another ski into my quiver for general all purpose carving and having a good time (low to moderate speeds). I also want to use this new ski as my all mountain instructor ski or normal skiing with friends and family. Would you prefer the 82/86 GT or Deacon 84 or Rossignol Exp 88 Ti for my intended purpose?
        I already owned skis for GS/SL racing, front side technical, all mountain free ride and all mountain free style skiing. Only two I am missing here - all mountain coaching and powder skis. 😁

        1. JC,
          I stand corrected, it's just the 86 that has the .7mm titanal laminates. And yes, I do think the 78 will carve better than the 82--it's not going to be a huge difference. For instruction, I've always leaned to lighter and more manageable skis that you can still actively demonstrate on, so on your list, I'd say the 88 covers that base the best, but won't give you the same performance as the 84 or the 86 when you're freeskiing, so it's kind of a toss-up there. I don't teach anymore (just my kids), but when I watch lessons, I always wish the instructor had lighter skis on his or her feet--just looks tiring! The Deacon 84 has the best range in terms of high and low-gear skiing while the GT 86 has the most consistently high gear. Hope that helps!

          1. Hi SE!
            Thanks very much for your thoughtful responses! Appreciated!
            It’s so hard to find the right ski with the proper attributes for our needs. I guess that’s why we ended up with so many skis in our quiver.
            You are right, the instructors skis should be agile and light to accommodate teaching of different skier types. But I think for this coming season I will only be supporting the race program at a nearby mountain in the north east, so only dealing with U8-U10 kids. I think my choice boils down to Rossi E88 Ti (comfortable in all terrains and lightweight) or go for something slightly more racy like the Deacon 84 to keep up with the junior race teams and still have some flexibility across different terrain. The 86 GT would be best when I am not teaching and just blazing all over the mountain. I just checked the weight of the 86 GT on Fischer’s website - at @2450 grams per ski at the 175cm length is pretty hefty. At my height (176cm) and body weight (167-170 pounds), it will probably tire me out in a couple of hours and won’t be sustainable for skiing 6-8 hours a day.
            For my stats, why length should I choose for either the Rossi E88 Ti or Deacon 84?
            After this I can make the choice.
            Thanks again.

          2. JC,
            I really liked the Deacon 84. The Experience is lively and a good turner, but does not match the precision or performance level of the Deacon. I'd go with that one in the 172 (179 would be on the long side, but if you know you prefer longer skis, it's certainly not out of the question for someone your height, although I'd say your weight puts you closer to the 172). 173 for the E88, but overall, I think if you were leaning to the performance of the GT 86 but were put off by the weight, the slightly lighter Deacon stacks up better than the Rossi. Hope that helps!

  26. Hi SE!
    Thanks for all your thoughtful answers! Deacon 84 it is then! Do you know the actual tip to tail length of the 172 vs 179? Does the Deacon 84 ski long or short?
    From the online pictures it looks like it would ski It’s actual length given the limited tip/tail rise and lack of taper. If true I could go shorter (172) if maneuverability is preferred or longer if high speed performance is preferred (179).
    Is the Deacon 84’s tip/tail flex softer or stiffer than the Liberty v82/92?
    Would be a great complement to my liberty v92!

    1. JC,
      Looking back through the thread, I noticed that I had typed 179, but the 177 is the one above the 172. Nevertheless, I found that the 182 that I skied was pretty true to size, I'm pretty big at 6'2 220, so I'm always on the lookout for longer skis! Working remotely these days, I can't put a tape to the ski, but I'd imagine the blunted tip shape may take a cm off the measured length. So I'd lean to the 177 now that that number is on the table. In relation to the Liberty, it's certainly a more metallic and precise feel, although I have found that vertical metal strut in the V82 to be quite effective. More of a GS feel from the Deacon--I'd say stiffer overall. Have fun!

      1. Thanks for all the help! It was very helpful! Deacon 84 in 177cm it is! I was thinking 172cm but I am an aggressive skier so the 177cm would be better.

  27. Hi - I've been looking very hard at the Fischer 86 GT and the Elan Wingman. I'm 49, 155, 5'9 and have a ski racing background and currently coach u14s. I currently ski on some old Fischer Big Stix 98 in 186. The Big Stix have a similar tip and tail with with 98 underfoot. At speed these ski rip groomers and are very lively but I need to be going 25+ for them to really come alive and with the 98 with need a very steep edge angle. I wondering what your advice is between skiing the 175 or the 182 in the 86 GT's? I'm looking for a ski that can do 21m but also carve at 16-17m at slower speeds.

    1. HI Chad!
      Fischer's sure got a winner with that 86 GT. It's going to feel a lot more race-like than the Big Stix, but it's amazing how they handle the different shaped turns with the triple radius. I'd go 175 to get a bit more of that shorter radius. Have fun!

  28. Hallo,
    Actually i am sking a Fisher Rc4 the curv gt 175cm. I found it a little difficulte to ski off-piste an on bumps. On piste the ski is perfekt.
    I am hesitating between the Head v shape v10 and the fisher one rc 86 gt. I am 57 old and 180 cm. I am a good skier.
    Can you help me.

    1. Hi Robert!
      The biggest difference between the RC One 86 and the V10 is the weight. I'd say you'll have a similar experience in terms of off-piste with the 86 GT as the Curv, while the V10 is a lot easier to maneuver. That said, you lose carving power with the V10. The differences are not subtle, either, the RC One 86 GT is quite a bit burlier than the V10, which really prefers lower speeds and shorter turns. Hope that helps!

  29. Hi Guys
    Wondering about the RC One 86 GT and what length to go with . I am having trouble replacing my old skis with a new ski. I have a 10ft Volkl Tigershark in a 161. I am an aggressive smooth skier who loves ripping turns on groomers. What length would you suggest in the Fischer and as well any other ski suggestions. I am 5’8 190 lbs 52 years old. Thanks in advance

    1. HI Michael!
      I think the 168 is the way to go in that ski. Very smooth and stable. In that width, I'd also take a look at the Elan Wingman 86 CTi or the Volkl Deacon 84. Have fun!

  30. Hello,
    Thank you for very interesting and valuable review.
    I am sking in last 3 years very intensive, and took about 50 days on skies Head primal instinct L=170, R=12,8m. I am 187cm long and have 93kg. Easily taking red slopes , but on black slopes ,when I pick up speed , I feel me unstable so I am considering getting new skies to try something different ( more stable, bigger radius, more challenging ski...) Mostly I am prefer to take runs on prepared slopes, but actually I am very often take runs after work and slopes can be more groomers than prepared. I am thinking about 3 models: Fischer RC One 86 GT (175,182) or the K2 Dispruption 82Ti (177,184) or the Elan Wingman 76 (178, 184) ? Favorite is Fischer RC One 86 (182cm) based on your comments and my wishes.
    My question is: what is by your opinion best choice to me?
    Please be free to propose another model if you see that can be better fit to me.

    BR, Milos

    1. Thanks, Milos!
      So smooth, stable, and powerful is the Fischer. The other skis can achieve similar carving turns, but not as stable or strong as the 86GT. The Elan and K2 are lighter and quicker and a bit more twitchy while the Fischer is more like a freight train. If you are looking for stability, stick to the Fischer. Have fun!

      1. Hi and thank you for the quick feedback and advice. Freight train is my choice. 😁
        I ordered Fischer in length 182cm so I am coming back with impresions after few days on the snow ( probably next year ).
        I need your advice about boots, I have HEAD Advant edge 75 ( flex) and I am worried that thay are for soft for such powerful skies like Fischer 86. I know that boots I need to try fiscally before I buy, and I saw few models from Head, Salomon, Dalbelo , Lange with flex about 100-120 but I am not sure what is correct flex for me , because I am looking for boots to have possibility to spent whole day on snow ( without to stop blood in legs) but also to use potential of the Fischer as much as posible as well.
        Thank you for the time and advice.
        BR, Milos

        1. Milos,
          Boots are tough, and yes, you do need a stiffer boot to access the performance of the Fischer. Flex also depends on ankle flexion, so it is very important to see a pro boot fitter if possible. Like skis, all boots have their different width and flex combos, so you've got to figure out how wide your foot is and how flexible your ankles are, and those things are best done by a pro. Wish I could help more!

          1. Hi SE,
            thank you for the tips and your time.
            I have tried Fischer 86GT in lenght 182cm and i feel duty to write review after 6 days on the snow. I tested skies with HEAD vector 120 boots, mostly on grommers, but also 2 days i came later so slopes was not perfect, i wanted to try all-mountain characteristics 🙂 . My main impression is the very good contact with the hard surface and the great feeling of safety when turning at speed. So strong, stable, powerfull and fast skiing that I feel myself much better skier. It is really a pleasure to ski on black dimamond and double black diamond slopes with these skis.

            One more time, thank you for the advice, i am pretty happy whit choice and met all expectations with this ski.

            BR, Milos

  31. Hey Guys... Love the reviews... so jealous your so close to Stowe... I'm in the city way south from you and ski Mt Creek religiously every weekend it's open... I'm 5' 7" 150lbs...55yrs old advanced aggressive skier... currently on pro mtn 80 152... reason being is I have been teaching my now 5 year old son how to ski last few seasons and wanted something I could handle very easily since I have been dealing with him... My son can now hockey stop and has been going down the blues with me... must say I'm pretty proud of him... I rented some Head 159mm carving ski's one time and had really nice energy popping out of the turns and I miss that all so much... Unfortunately Mt Creek gets a lot of skiers and crude is a major issue... looking to get some 86 GT 161 to burn thru it all... and I'm not worried about my son keeping up with me... he's faster than me sometimes... lol... so I hope these are what I'm looking for and would appreciate you feed back...

    1. HI JJ!
      It's one of the most impressively stable skis I've been on, and a fantastic eastern ski for sure! I'd think the 161 will get you all the power you need to bust through the crud and hang on the ice. Have fun!

  32. Hi. I’m an East Coast skier who loves to charge, find little hits and rollers and carve different shaped turns. Tight lines on the sides in VT is the norm since we lack snow! I have the Stormrider 95s which I love for charging at speed but it can be a bit hard to carve on fast, East Coast conditions that’s mixed with ice. They are also not always great at initiating a tight line. The Fisher RC1 looks like maybe the answer. How would you compare them to the Stormriders and the Elan Wingman 86 (I also have the Ripstick 106, which I take out west and love)? Any other narrow waist sticks I should consider?Thanks!

    1. HI Miles!
      The Fischer is about as strong and stable as it gets, but that stability comes at the cost of weight and stiffness. They are unflinching, both in good and bad ways. You must be prepared for the heft, as these skis really prefer to be glued to the snow. When engaged, though, they are quite amazing. The Wingman is awesome--a bit different of a feel from the Fischer, as they're lighter and more agile, but not quite as damp. Kind of depends what type of personality you're looking for when it comes to a carving ski--I would say the Wingman is more versatile in an all-mountain format while the Fischer prefers smoother surfaces. Volkl Deacon 84 is another good choice in that category. Have fun!

  33. Hi guys! I love your reviews and the content is always incredibly informative. I have a paid of RC1 86GT that I have been skiing on all season (21/22) and love them. The first couple of days I was tentative and definitely felt the weight. But then my confidence grew the more I skied on them and the faster and more playful I became. Stable, fast, and fun. For next season I am most likely going to add a pair that aren't a race car, primarily so that I can do more than primarily groomers.

  34. Hi! I have three teenage racers who all love the Fischer RC4 Worldcup skis. We live in MN but like going to Breckinridge. The kids wouldn’t want to be on anything other than their narrow waist skis so they can fly down the groomers but on fresh snow days, those skis aren’t very fun out west! Would you recommend this ski to use as an All-mountain ski? Would it be able to handle the speed on groomers without becoming shaky? Also, could it handle going on moguls and fresh snow or would you suggest something wider? Please note my teenagers are very tall (6’4” sons, 5’11” daughter, expert level skiers). Your advice would be so appreciated! They really want to get some all-mountain skis to enjoy on days there isn’t corduroy. It is hard to get advice from people unless they truly understand the need to carve when you’re a slalom racer. Is there a ski that can do both?

    1. HI Misty!
      I think it's a nice blend of on-trail carving and off-piste performance. They're heavy and have more of a frontside shape--that's the main thing keeping them from being full-on all-mountain skis like a Volkl Kendo. The Kendo is the next step from front side to a carvy all-mountain ski. For more race-like behavior, go RC 86, but a bit more versatility, the Kendo still carves a mean turn. Have fun!

  35. hi guys, I have been skiing for the past several years on the blizzard magnum 8.5, 174 length. It has been a great ski pretty stiff and good edge hold. I’ve been considering the RC one 86 as a replacement. Looking for something that would be a little bit more forgiving in the bumps over the blizzard but continue to have the great grip on hard conditions. What do you think and what length would you recommend. I am 5 foot six 155 pounds, thanks

    1. HI Rick!
      I think that ski in the 168 would be awesome. It's still on the heavy side, but it's still pretty easy to turn, making it one of the more well-rounded all-mountain carvers on the planet.

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